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Momtezuma Tuatara
08-10-09, 06:33 PM
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/why-are-we-afraid-of-the-new-flu-vaccine/

Recently, a mother I know told me that her doctor has urged her to get the new H1N1 flu shot for her two children, who both have asthma. She already gives her children the regular seasonal flu shot, but for reasons she can’t really explain, she’s nervous about the new flu vaccine.
She’s not alone. Talk shows and Internet sites are abuzz with questions and fears about getting vaccinated against the novel H1N1 virus, often called swine flu. The popular Web site Mercola.com (http://www.mercola.com/) is urging parents not to get the flu vaccine, and even the talk show host Bill Maher posted a warning (http://twitter.com/billmaher/status/4403617471) about the new flu shot to his more than 50,000 followers on Twitter. A University of Michigan poll (http://www2.med.umich.edu/prmc/media/newsroom/details.cfm?ID=1312) found that 60 percent of parents surveyed do not plan to vaccinate their children against H1N1.
Now, as the first doses become available, government officials are trying to combat myths and fears about the novel H1N1 flu and the vaccine (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/us/07flu.html?ref=health) that can prevent it, Donald G. McNeil Jr. of The New York Times reported on Wednesday.
Much of the fear stems from a vaccine debacle more than 30 years ago. In 1976, a swine flu vaccine was associated with Guillain-Barré syndrome (pronounced ghee-YAN bah-RAY), in which the body damages its own nerve cells, causing weakness and sometimes paralysis. The reasons are unclear. Some studies found no link. Another study suggested that one person in every one million vaccinated for seasonal flu might be at risk for Guillain-Barré.
But the problems in 1976 have nothing to do with the current vaccine, which is produced in the same fashion as the regular flu vaccine. An article in this week’s New Yorker by Michael Specter (http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2009/10/12/091012taco_talk_specter) summed it up well. In it, Mr. Specter writes:

Though this H1N1 virus is novel, the vaccine is not. It was made and tested in exactly the same way that flu vaccines are always made and tested. Had this strain of flu emerged just a few months earlier, there would not have been any need for two vaccines this year; 2009 H1N1 would simply have been included as one of the components in the annual vaccine.
Meanwhile, the virus has now appeared in a hundred and ninety-one countries. It has killed almost four thousand people and infected millions of others. The risks are clear and so are the facts. But, while scientists and public-health officials have dealt effectively with the disease, they increasingly confront a different kind of contagion: the spurious alarms spread by those who would make us fear vaccines more than the illnesses they prevent.
Are you planning to seek the new vaccine for your family? Please tell us about it by joining the discussion below.

Momtezuma Tuatara
08-10-09, 06:34 PM
the comments are just classic.

I posted this, but doubt it will be put up:



Be rational, all you provaccine people calling those who don't want to vaccinate "stupid".

Just think. You've been told there should be enough vaccine for all who want it. You've also been told, that you might not be able to be vaccinated when you want it, because everyone might stampede to get the vaccine.

The more people who don't want the vaccine, the easier it will be for those who do want it, to get it when they want it.

Be thankful that there are those you call crazy, quite happy to stand back and let you take their place in the queue.

Step forward, have your shots, and then thank the doubters for allowing you to get in first.


It was put up. Comment 185...

cartersmom
10-10-09, 01:05 AM
:eyeroll: I can't read comment sections...they always piss me off. The general public are so stupid! I hope they put up your comment Hilary...

magical1
10-10-09, 06:11 AM
I can't open it... might be me... can you copy and paste it here please MT?

Momtezuma Tuatara
10-10-09, 08:42 AM
I've submitted another comment to an ED medical doctor who has his head in the clouds:


Jack, perhaps you could tell me just HOW this vaccine is any different to the vaccine made in 1976?

I've never seen a published formulation for the 1976 Swine Flu vaccines.

I would imagine that anyone (myself included) who has had serious reactions from vaccines, would definitely have something to fear from this vaccine.
After all, just reading the warnings and contraindications on the package insert is going to automatically exclude at least 10% of the population.

Also, in checking all the past and ongoing N1H1 vaccine trials at www.clinicaltrials.gov (http://www.clinicaltrials.gov). have you noticed the huge raft of conditions listed under "exclusion criteria"? This vaccine has not been tested in people with conditions which equate to at least 40% of the total American population. They are specifically EXCLUDED from the trials as being "not healthy enough". Are you then, going to turn around to all those groups of people and tell them that this vaccine has been tested in people just like them, and proven safe?

Momtezuma Tuatara
10-10-09, 08:53 AM
This was to a paediatrician


To Don Shifrin:

"As for me,I would love to see President Obama’s family get their flu vaccines in a photo op. We need that kind of confidence to hopefully boost our prevention efforts."

You mean like October 14, 1976, when President Ford was vaccinated in a huge photo op, which reassured Americans, so that they lined up, had the vaccine,... and then a few weeks later, the programme was canned after GBS and deaths?

I wonder how President Ford felt about his "false reassurance" which lead to so much paralysis, and deaths?

I would suspect that President Obama would have more sense than repeating what could be seen, by those with a memory, as a paternalistic, platitudinous photo op.