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Momtezuma Tuatara
10-01-10, 10:26 AM
To all the various people attempting to see attachments, and being blocked... there is an ISP tracker on this website which shows who you are, and where you are from.

You are not able to view the attachments without registering first.

To the member of the New Zealand Health Department who registered, presumably to view the attachments, while you are welcome to do so, wouldn't it be more "politic", and definitely more human, if you went to the Renata family and sat down and had a talk to them?




I have permission to discuss Jasmine's death, and to post an open letter sent yesterday, to .. um... quite a few people.



Open Letter to Dr Stewart Jessamine,
Medsafe.
Saturday, 9 January, 2009.

Dear Dr Jessamine,

I have been working with Rhonda Renata since October, regarding her daughter’s death following the Gardasil vaccination, and have permission to discuss her death, and for all information I have to be made public. This letter has been written with Rhonda, and all attachments are attached as requested by Rhonda.
I also have Rhonda’s permission to discuss other aspects of this case on my website, now that Rhonda has gone public through the Herald today:
Reference: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10619244 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10619244) 9 January 2010.

CSL, which markets Gardasil in New Zealand, said it was unlikely the investigations would find the vaccine caused Jasmine's death.
The Ministry of Health said it was important not to jump to conclusions about Jasmine's death until more information was available.
"Information from immunisation programmes overseas has not raised any concerns over the safety of this vaccine, in which over 44 million doses have been distributed worldwide," said Dr Stewart Jessamine, group manager of the ministry's medicines safety authority Medsafe.
Reference:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10614748 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10614748) December 11, 2009.

CARM director Michael Tatley yesterday told the Herald an investigation was under way, but details of the girl's death were "really scant stuff".
The matter was still before the coroner. The girl is believed to have died in the past couple of months.

Her death had come within six months of receiving the Gardasil vaccination, but it was not known if she had completed the course - generally three shots administered six weeks apart.

Before I discuss specific issues which concern me, please find attached Jasmine’s medical records420; two documents which were sent to Dr Michael Tatley’s office by Rhonda Renata on the 21th November, 2009, (Report card 414 , and supplementary documents 415 ) acknowledged by Janelle Ashton on 23.11.2009, and assigned the CARM report number, 087237. Please also find attached the provisional report after autopsy 421 ; ESR letter 17th Novmber 2009 422 , and please note that this was all that has been received by the parents.

· Can you read the provisional report?

· Do you think that this “information” is appropriate for parents?

· Shouldn’t parents in Rhonda’s position, receive an outline of what will be done; how, and in what time frame?

Jasmine died on 22nd September 2009.

· Do you think it reasonable that Jasmine’s parents still have no autopsy results?

As you will see, all three batch numbers for Jasmine’s Gardasil vaccines were supplied on the report card. Furthermore, the supplementary document provided, gave very detailed information from the medical records, and from Jasmine’s mother Rhonda.

· Why then, on December 11, 2009, did Michael Tatley inform the Herald that he didn’t know if she had completed the series, and that information was really scant stuff?

· How can the public have any confidence in CARM when they deny the existence of the very information they request that a parent send to them?

Here are what I consider to be key issues which the Ministry must address:

The fact that at least THREE teenage girls died in their sleep between 1 September and 30 November 2009. These are only the ones we know about. One of those, Jasmine Renata, is confirmed as receiving the full Gardasil series before she died.

· What about Jaylene Pai, and the other Jasmine, in Napier, who died shortly before Jasmine Renata?

· What about any others, whose parents think that their child is the only one who has died in her sleep?

There is also concern in this country and overseas, about seizures following Gardasil. I note from letters to the editor, that prominent medical people in New Zealand, who consider themselves expert in this area, have discounted USA deaths of young girls who have died while driving, following the receipt of Gardasil. On the face of it, a car crash looks highly improbable doesn’t it.

· However, do those people realise that FDA has initiated an investigation of those car crashes on the basis that the girls driving, had developed seizures after Gardasil, and in some cases, the first seizure, appeared to coincide with them driving a car?

It’s no more improbable, than the clusters of cases of broken limbs in recipients of Menomune A in 1987, in children who had developed ataxia after receipt of that vaccine. Losing your ability to walk proper after a vaccine, could quite feasibly result in a broken arm. That “concept” should not be dismissed, just because other children break their arms.

· Are you aware also, of data from VAERS and elsewhere, showing that girls given Gardasil in the premenstrual phase, have more serious reactions, and that their reactions get worse on a monthly basis, just before their periods?

New Zealand has what you call the National Immunisation Register (NIR). At the moment, this register is used as a vaccine enforcement tool, it’s “purpose” being to mop up and vaccinate by any means possible, as many children as possible.

But in the NIR, you have a tool which could potentially be very useful as a “flag”.

Jasmine, Jasmine and Jai, should be on the NIR. In fact, all the children who have received Gardasil, will be on the NIR, and conversely, most of the children who HAVE NOT received Gardasil, should be on the NIR.

Comparison of these two groups could be instructive.

If you were able to run a computer analysis on the children who have had Gardasil, how many would you find who had mysteriously died in their sleep? You don’t know, because you can’t.

How many young girls might you find, who now have a diagnosis of CFS after Gardasil? You don’t know, because you can’t.

How many young girls might you find who have recently been diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder? You don’t know, because you can’t.

Why? Because NIR is used as an enforcement tool, not an efficient modality of comparison, to see whether or not health events after vaccination are only happening in one group.

I realise that the NIR’s use is however, somewhat limited, because many adolescents who have not had Gardasil, will have had DT and we know from Tsumiyama 419 and Toplak 418 that any vaccine has the potential to cause autoimmunity (and death). Siegrist 417 should also be taken seriously, but … how are you going to do that?

You could use NIR, if you had the “will” to do so.

BUT… in order to assess any vaccine reaction at whatever age, or autoimmunity causation properly, you would need a totally unvaccinated cohort.

Right now, this country has a significant “totally unvaccinated-by-choice ” population, which could form an ideal control group to show you what is normal in children who never have vaccines. However these parents and children mostly stay out of sight, and well away from the medical profession. Many, if not most of them, will not be on the NIR, because the actions of nurses turning up and browbeating the few that are on the NIR. The stories of intimidation, have spread right throughout the non-vaccinating grapevine.

Their reluctance to deal with the NIR is reinforced by hospital staff/ medical professionals and particularly IMAC’s extremely rude and punitive approach to non-vaccinating parents in the last few years.

I suggest that it’s time you initiate a reform of medical attitudes in this country, and convince parents who don’t vaccinate their children at all, that their children can be studied as a legitimate control group, if they are not pressured to vaccinate, or character assassinated for not doing so.

However, what to me is the most important aspect of Gardasil, is the aluminium adjuvant. See Shaw 416 attached. Dr Shaw sent me his 2006 paper , but it’s in two parts and is a total of 10 mb. What makes this aluminium adjuvant even more serious, in my mind, is that while it’s clear that injected aluminium has direct access to neuronal tissue, Gardasil also contains Polysorbate 80, which is used as a coating for certain types of brain drugs, because polysorbate easily pulls those drugs through the blood brain barrier 423 .

· Question. Does Polysorbate 80 increase the amount of aluminium in a Gardasil recipient’s brain?

In Jasmine’s case, you will see that some evolving symptoms in her last three months, are compatible with motor-neuron impairment in the brain. More worryingly, her ability to make decisions, and “work things out” markedly deteriorated in the last three months of her life.

Dr Shaw suggested that at autopsy, destruction of motor neurons should be looked for in brain samples, and the Morin stain for Aluminium should be used to ascertain it’s presence in the brain.

On enquiry, it was found that New Zealand’s autopsy protocols would not accommodate either.

Which raises another question.

· How can we have any confidence in a coroner’s finding, when the autopsy doesn’t contain tests (which a doctor knowledgeable about the action of aluminium vaccine adjuvants in animals), considers crucial, in order to solve Jasmine’s case?

Jasmine’s mother, Rhonda, is right to state that the medical profession in this country will be unlikely to come up with any explanations. Not just because the autopsy process is basic in the extreme, but because should those tests come back positive for aluminium, given the medical profession’s track record on vaccine reactions so far, it’s presence in the brain would be guaranteed to be blamed on everything else … except the vaccine.

I have been contacted by many people who have had serious reactions after Gardasil.

The following are common to all their stories:

· Doctors are totally dismissive that there is any possible connection with any reaction to Gardasil.

· Doctors refused to report the reaction.

· Doctors have nothing to offer with regard to treatment.

All of these people are now undertaking alternative medicine protocols, because there is nothing else available to them.

Some are having some success, and others are having none.

What you have right now, in New Zealand, is a similar situation as exists in UK, European Union, Canada, USA and Australia. There are significant numbers of girls, all showing very similar patterns relating to events following Gardasil, and in nearly every case, any relationship with the Gardasil vaccine is refuted right from the moment the child, or parent opens their mouths. As a result of the medical professions consistently refusal to investigate these cases individually, and appropriately, many organisations are being set up, and websites opened to collect the data which the medical profession will not.

You may ask:

· Why have I stayed silent about Jasmine so far?

The first reason what that it was agreed that Rhonda would be the first to go public in her own time. The second reason was that we wanted to see whether or not the New Zealand medical and governmental system could competently deal with one very well laid out complaint to CARM, without media involvement. This is a case about which John Key, Tony Ryall, Tariana Turia, and many others have known about, from the start.

The evidence of the last few months shows that the ability of the medical profession to effectively address vaccine reactions with integrity and honesty, is zero. In frustration, Rhonda on her own initiative, has decided to go public, and I will now be suggesting to everyone else, that if they have the energy and emotional ability to cope with the crap that will be thrown their way by the medical profession for doing so, that their first port of call should be the media, not the medical profession.

Sincerely,

Hilary Butler.

Momtezuma Tuatara
10-01-10, 10:45 AM
Three more polysorbate studies.

Momtezuma Tuatara
10-01-10, 11:09 AM
USA VAERS GARDASIL deaths:
http://tinyurl.com/y8jdasn (http://tinyurl.com/y8jdasn)

MinorityView
10-01-10, 11:42 AM
They mention 44 million doses distributed, not how many doses actually given. And unless someone is really paying attention, they won't catch on that the number of doses has to be divided by three to get a sense of how many GIRLS have actually received the vaccine. Doublespeak all the way down the line.

unity1
10-01-10, 07:08 PM
very well said - I hope it goes far and wide and people do start contacting the media - as you know I will post an article including your information on infonews.co.nz there is a comment section to which anyone can post a comment - this is a NZ citizen media site that has thousands of readers and gardasil has had one of the biggest readerships so the topic is hot

there is much concern out there about the coercion of children at school - Ian Wishart wrote something about how the MoH pays schools and schools have shamed kids whose wise parents have refused consent - how many I wonder have been jabbed anyway - I've read on a kiwi blog from a guy in London that his daughter was jabbed any way despite their not giving consent - ive also heard that financially there are gains to many places by Merck - would be nice to expose those

the swine flue vac in the 1970's caused many deaths - it also caused an up surge in GBS and was eventually withdrawn - its time to really put that info out there and get this stopped

and what about all the parents whose daughters health are now severely compromised ????

it was just a matter of time before the deaths over seas and the debilitating illness began replicating in NZzzzzz and now they have - how many more girls will die or have died or gotten CFS or GBS and never connected the two - its shameful

Primary health is a medi evil nightmare
thank you once again for being here for these women
sincerely
jenese

Momtezuma Tuatara
11-01-10, 04:28 PM
My day today was spent doing this, and fielding calls from reporters.

Problem. Magazines usually want exclusivisity. We will see what Rhonda does on that one.

I doubt she will want one magazine to hog the issue.

http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_One_When_your_child_has_a_vaccine_reaction/ (http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_One_When_your_child_has_a_vaccine_reaction/)

http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_Two_Reporting_the_Reaction/ (http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_Two_Reporting_the_Reaction/)

http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_Three_Carm_and_Jasmine_Renata/

http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_Four_Autopsy_and_Jasmine_Renata/

http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_Five_Jasmine,_the_tip_of_the_iceberg/

http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_Six_Some_more_of_the_iceberg/

Momtezuma Tuatara
11-01-10, 04:31 PM
Jasmine was on Depo-provera, and one other who has just contacted me, was on the pill. Many others can't remember what part of their cycle they are in, but hormones could be part of the story.

http://holyhormones.com/us-uk-scotland-netherlands-concerns-about-gardasil/ (http://holyhormones.com/us-uk-scotland-netherlands-concerns-about-gardasil/)

http://holyhormones.com/about-2/articles-by-leslie/vaccinating-teens-during-menstrual-phase-may-increase-adverse-reactions/ (http://holyhormones.com/about-2/articles-by-leslie/vaccinating-teens-during-menstrual-phase-may-increase-adverse-reactions/)

The title of the presentation is "Menstruation and Vaccination - A Precursor to Adverse Reactions?"
The audio part of the Webinar can be heard at: http://www.medicalvoices.org/en/events/next.html
or click directly on the link below.
https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/346475427

Scroll down to November 4 and you can listen to the hour recording.

She notes:
I started with creating a new paradigm on how to view menstruation as a natural cycle with relevance to women's lives.
I also have some VAERS data in their that show the jump in adverse reactions as soon as menstruation begins for a young woman.
The beauty is that I have pre-Gardasil events - that are not skewed by the jump in the number of girls vs. boys getting the vaccine.

Momtezuma Tuatara
12-01-10, 10:18 AM
http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_Seven_Gardasil_and_the_Harper (http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_Seven_Gardasil_and_the_Harper)

http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_Eight_Gardasil_and_Mark_Probert/ (http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Part_Eight_Gardasil_and_Mark_Probert/)

MinorityView
12-01-10, 10:39 AM
So who is Mark Probert and why is his nasty response worthy of notice?

Momtezuma Tuatara
12-01-10, 11:01 AM
don't know, and don't care, but it's newsworthy, because so many people have emailed me the provaccine response, and because people should be aware of the sorts of inferences vaccine defenders put on people who write about stuff, but aren't of their persuasion.

Momtezuma Tuatara
12-01-10, 11:06 AM
Right now, as of 2.04 p.m. Tuesday, 12 January 2009, someone from the New Zealand Ministry of Health is viewing an attachment in the first post above. 210.55.201.197 (http://beyondvaccination.com/online.php?do=resolveip&ipaddress=210.55.201.197) node5.moh.govt.nz . Very sad that they feel the need to come here for information rather than talk to Jasmine's family, don't you think?

A tracker in www.beyondconformity.org.nz (http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz) shows me that that too is being accessed by medical people. I have no problems with this, since after all, it's what Rhonda wants.

But what she wants most of all, Ministry of Health, is that YOU would talk to her!

How about it?

MinorityView
12-01-10, 11:06 AM
Oh, okay. I thought perhaps he was someone in a position of authority or something.

That is the standard line.