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Momtezuma Tuatara
23-04-10, 01:39 PM
because of high temperatures and seizures.

Note the bit about seizures being "treatable". :trainwreck:

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/flu-vaccination-ban-goes-national-after-fever-convulsions-in-children-20100423-tglp.html (http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/flu-vaccination-ban-goes-national-after-fever-convulsions-in-children-20100423-tglp.html)

Flu vaccination ban goes national after fever, convulsions in children

http://images.watoday.com.au/2010/04/23/1374895/article_vaccine-420x0.jpg
Doctors are being advised to stop giving the flu vaccine to children.

Australia's chief medical officer has told doctors to stop giving the seasonal flu vaccine to children.
The advice follows a decision last night by the WA government to suspend the free vaccination program over concerns the vaccine was causing high fevers and convulsions in young children.

"We suggest doctors and health professionals vaccinating children don't use the seasonal flu vaccine for the moment, until we can get the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) to investigate this in more detail," Professor Jim Bishop told ABC TV.

He said the concerns stemmed from a significant rise in the number of children developing a fever after receiving the vaccine.

"We need more information about what’s happened in WA, but also what we can now find out from all the other states from their experience," Professor Bishop said.

"If this has been brought up as a possible side-effect of this drug, then we ought to at least suspend its use until we know more."

In light of the seasonal flu shot suspension, Professor Bishop suggested children get vaccinated against swine flu instead, because that could be a health risk this winter too.

The state government yesterday announced it was temporarily suspending its free flu vaccination program for children under five.

Perth mother of two Bea Flint said her 11-month old boy Avery had a seizure after receiving the first dose of the two-dose flu vaccination on Saturday.

Ms Flint said that after the 9am vaccination she noticed Avery had a minor temperature about 2pm. She treated him with Panadol and by Avery's 7pm bedtime he seemed "OK".

However, at 7.45pm, Avery started whimpering and moaning.

When Ms Flint got to his cot the baby had vomited and was lying on his side having a seizure.
"In the car driving to the hospital he was just whimpering," Ms Flint said.

"He couldn't cry - his head was hanging down in the car seat and he couldn't move.
"I was petrified - it was one of the worst experiences of my life."

By the time Avery arrived at St John of God Hospital in Murdoch, he was burning up with a fever of 39.5 degrees.

The doctor who treated Avery told Ms Flint her baby was the fifth child with similar symptoms admitted to the hospital that day.

Health Minister Kim Hames last night advised of the suspension as a precautionary measure.
He said the suspension came after a significant rise in the number of children who had developed a high temperature after receiving the vaccine.

He said some children had gone into febrile convulsions, a fit caused by a high fever, following the vaccinations.

Princess Margaret Hospital figures showed about 22 children had been brought to the hospital following febrile convulsions possibly linked to the vaccine in the past month.

Dr Hames said it was unclear if the fevers were related to the influenza vaccination but the precautionary measure was the most responsible course of action.

Fevers in most instances are treatable.

"People should give Paracetamol according to the instructions and tepid sponging to keep the temperature down." Dr Hames said.

"On rare occasions children can have a convulsion as the result of the high temperature and sometimes that can be prolonged, which can be a risk to the child."

He said parents should not take children under the age of five to be vaccinated against influenza until further notice.

WA executive director of public health Tarun Weeramanthri told radio 6PR that any adverse effects from the vaccines would only last 12 hours.

Perth father Liam said his 16-month-old daughter developed a very high fever just hours after being given the vaccination earlier this month.

"We woke up to hear her crying during the night, and when we went in to get her she was just roasting," he said.

"The fever was one of the highest she had ever had - she was hot to the touch - and she was clearly very unhappy.

"I am a big believer in vaccinations, but this one is a real concern."

Japonica
23-04-10, 02:20 PM
Yeah, I saw this today too...I posted a link in media alerts. Seems like a lot of parents are commenting that 40C fevers, vomiting, and convulsions are more than they expected.

Medicare Australia sent us a letter advising that we could bring in our 23 month old (yes, the one recovering from whooping cough) for his free flu jab. Thing is, Medicare has our kids' CO forms on file. Do they bother to read? Or were they thinking, "What the heck...they don't do the other vaxes but maybe they'll want the flu vaccine!"

Momtezuma Tuatara
23-04-10, 02:48 PM
I loved the bit about having the swine flu shot for your kids instead, since that would be more of a threat.

Exactly how do they know that?

And if the Swine flu vaccine is safe, why are they only just enrolling a clinical trial on Australian children for this year?

bbrandonsmom
23-04-10, 09:36 PM
Huh, off to see if there are issues elsewhere.

bbrandonsmom
23-04-10, 09:42 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2010/s2881076.htm
Pregnant women and elderly should still get vaccinated. Pregnant women? At least they are suspending the vaccine for now, maybe it will open some eyes?

Momtezuma Tuatara
24-04-10, 04:30 PM
The show must go on................................................ ...... and on ..........................................

Japonica
25-04-10, 11:53 AM
Now there's a reported death:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/brisbane-toddler-dies-after-receiving-flu-jab-20100425-tkym.html


he sudden death of a Brisbane toddler has been linked to the seasonal flu vaccine, as health authorities warn against immunising children under five.

The two-year-old girl, a twin, died on April 9 at her Upper Mt Gravatt home.She had received the vaccine 12 hours earlier, it was reported.

Predictably...


However, Queensland's chief medical officer Dr Jeannette Young has issued a statement denying knowledge of any death allegedly related to the flu vaccine this season.

Japonica
25-04-10, 01:55 PM
Oh and I thought you'd like this one Hilary...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/24/2881872.htm?section=justin


Gary Geelhoed from the AMA says while he understands parents' concerns, it is important to remember the benefits of immunisation.

"We would certainly continue to advise parents to have the appropriate vaccination of their children," he said.

"At the same time we need to investigate any possible side effects or downsides, and that's what's happening at the moment.

"But we have to remember that the benefits of vaccinations far, far, far outweigh any side effects."

Mr Geelhoed says he hopes the temporary ban will not affect overall immunisation rates.

"We must remember now that we don't see things like whooping cough, diptheria, tetinus[sic], measles, mumps and rubelle[sic]," he said.

"All those things have essentially gone from our community, they've largely gone because of vaccinations."

Highest number of reported pertussis cases on record last year and it's "essentially gone." :duh:

MinorityView
25-04-10, 10:40 PM
some people seem to live in a "fact-free" universe, at least when it comes to vaccines!

Momtezuma Tuatara
26-04-10, 12:58 PM
Oh and I thought you'd like this one Hilary...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/24/2881872.htm?section=justin



Highest number of reported pertussis cases on record last year and it's "essentially gone." :duh:

Wasn't that the same moron who said that all these cases were as a result of a low vaccination rate? When in fact, the vaccination rate in australia is the highest it's ever been?

bbrandonsmom
27-04-10, 10:55 PM
I wonder-did the twin get the vaccine as well-the article doesn't say.
Am I correct in that the kids are supposed to get 2 doses? They say "those who had 1 shot already should not get another one".

Japonica
28-04-10, 07:46 AM
Yeah, it appears two doses. There's a bunch of parents who said, based on their kids' reactions, that they weren't going back for the second dose even before the program was suspended.

MinorityView
28-04-10, 09:28 AM
I wonder-did the twin get the vaccine as well-the article doesn't say.
Am I correct in that the kids are supposed to get 2 doses? They say "those who had 1 shot already should not get another one".

I read somewhere that both kids got vaxed. The one who survived had been throwing up, the one who died just quietly went to sleep...

it is heartbreaking!

MinorityView
28-04-10, 11:41 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2010/s2883650.htm

transcript of a TV show, I think.

Sounds to me like they are trying to figure out how to smooth this over.