New series starting on insidevaccines

[MinorityView]

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2010/05/26/polio-2010/

[RandomName]

Thanks for the heads-up!

[MinorityView]

Part II is up. Please share this around on boards where you chat, or put up links on your blogs. We need more visibility! Thanks in advance.

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/polio-and-acute-flaccid-paralysis/

here is a tickler quote from within the article:

These statistics are simply not accurate. The 1954 “polio” data includes all paralysis. While some of this may have been from polio, in reality, much of it was from other causes. With the change of diagnostic criteria in 1955 that reduced case numbers, followed by laboratory testing that excluded vast numbers of other causes, the 1961 data only includes the small subgroup of paralysis caused by poliomyelitis. This is then compared with the catch-all 1954 definition. Because it was impossible to know what proportion of 1954 data were really caused by poliomyelitis viruses, the 1954 data was left as it was, and nothing of the back story is revealed to the readers. When people say: “we know the polio vaccine saved us from huge epidemics of this devastating disease” they are basing their knowledge on misinformation.

[Fièvre]

Very valuables articles !

A point is always puzzling me : Haven't the different health authorities taken into account these changes in definitions ? Didn't they make retro-active appraisals/accounts based on the new criteria ???? What do they answer when questioned on such a point ?

(The article is on Polio...but it could be on whatever other disease ! I am waiting for an overall article on the subject !)


I read all this rather quickly . I need to re-read it later .


PS : in http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/polio-and-acute-flaccid-paralysis/ this link seems to lead to nowhere :

(http://www.polioeradication.org/history.asp)1970 – 1980 (http://www.polioeradication.org/history.asp)
Lameness surveys demonstrate that polio is widespread in many developing countries, leading to the introduction of routine immunization with OPV in almost all national immunization programs. [7]

PS2 :
Marcia L. Meldrum is a researcher in the UCLA Department of History, with special expertise in using oral history and other qualitative methods to study health services, as well as medical history. She is the Co-Director of the John C. Liebeskind History of Pain Collection at the Louise M. Darling Biomedical Library in the Geffen School of Medicine, considered to be one of the leading archival and oral history collections in contemporary biomedicine in the country. She is the lead researcher on an NIMH-funded qualitative study of children with chronic pain and a collaborating investigator on the Oral History of Human Genetics, based at the UCLA Center for Society and Genetics. At the Center, Meldrum is collaborating on oral history and archival projects on the history of mental health services in LA County, the history of neuropsychopharmacology, and the problem of evidence-based evaluation of pharmaceuticals in a market economy. Her particular research interest is processes through which social, cultural, and economic factors shape diagnostic and therapeutic practices.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

A point is always puzzling me : Haven't the different health authorities taken into account these changes in definitions ? no.

Didn't they make retro-active appraisals/accounts based on the new criteria ???? No

What do they answer when questioned on such a point ?why would they be asked the question? Who would know this, if they didn't go look for it? and they would say, what relevance is such a question when supposedly, we don't see people in iron lungs any more.

[MinorityView]

stopped using iron lungs, now they have a different sort of respirator for the paralyzed folks. Who still exist.

[MinorityView]

Here is part III on polio and sanitation:

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2010/07/01/polio-and-sanitation/

[MinorityView]

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2010/09/07/polio-causes-and-effects-part-i/

Apparently, the various causes of polio will be done as a new series so I'm told..

[MinorityView]

The second article in the causes and effects series:
http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/2010/10/10/polio-causes-and-effects-part-ii/

This one is VERY good!

Do share it around :)

In fact, every time some vaccine enthusiast mentions the iron lungs, whip out this article!

[Fièvre]

Hi MinorityView !

Wasn't it vivian Wyatt who unearthed this intramuscular injection causation ? see : http://sites.google.com/site/vivianwyatt/

[MinorityView]

Hi Fievre,
I found it in a standard article on acute flaccid paralysis which is cited in the article. I had also come across the same story in the archives of a public health journal, also cited in the article.

The problem with injections and polio is fairly obvious to anyone who researches a bit, except for doctors. And even doctors catch on eventually.

So I doubt if Wyatt was ahead of the line on this one.

[Fièvre]

OK .

By the way , wouldn't it be interesting to mention on the insidevaccines blog the case of SMON (Subacute Myelo Optico Neuropathy ) a disease at first thought to be caused by a polio-like virus ....which happened to be caused by a drug ...10000victims ( I do not know how much the victims were affected ) . The case is apparently not widely known, in part because it was in Japan ( and a few years ago ) .

I already knew about the tonsilectomy/polio link ( the article gives precises - and early- references), and wondered if this had been measured ...

Another thing : I am looking for information on the experimental (?) use of polio vacines against genital herpes (???) ( you know: Kyle hypothesis and that sort of things...)

[MinorityView]

I'll add those to the list of possible blog articles. It is a big pile, I'm afraid!

[Fièvre]

:horse:Courage !

[Fièvre]

Hi MinorityView ! Here is an comment in French about polio/other inoculations : perhaps you'll pick only the names of the researchers .....“Je vous le demande donc a tous : Est ce qu une gastro entérite supposée virale est la conséquence indirecte ou direct d’ une vaccination chez un enfant ?”Je réponds, car étant vacciné je n’ai peur de rien, par une autre question : est-ce qu’en 1950 une vaccination antidiphtérique ou anticoquelucheuse pouvait être responsable d’une polio ?Voici quelques extraits de ce qu’on trouve dans un document de 530 pages sur les vaccinations : « Cours du Centre international de l’Enfance – 1951 Travaux et documents »Chapitre 27 sur les accidents de la vaccination anticoquelucheuse page263… :« Ces dernières années on a rapporté de nombreux cas de polio consécutifs à la vaccination. Mac Closkey a montré qu’il existe une relation entre l’inoculation de vaccin anticoquelucheux et une polio ultérieure lorsque l’injection a été pratiquée 1 mois auparavant. Le membre paralysé est souvent celui où l’injection a été faite. Cet auteur pense que l’inoculation du vaccin favorise l’apparition de paralysies dans des formes qui eussent été, sans cela, non paralytiques.Les mêmes conclusions ont été signalées en Angleterre. De ces études on peut déduire qu’une injection récente peut entraîner la localisation de la paralysie dans le membre où elle a été pratiquée. Chez un enfant hébergeant le virus de la polio, l’injection du vaccin polarise la paralysie vers l’endroit injecté.De ces observations et d’autres, on peut conclure que la vaccination faite en période d’épidémie de polio n’est pas recommandable et, dans les régions où elle est endémique, il faut suspendre autant que possible les vaccinations pendant les mois d’été.Avec une note de bas de page indiquant que cela a été observé dans la polio expérimentale sur la souris où l’injection d’un vaccin anticoquelucheux ou diphtérique provoque un raccourcissement net de la période d’incubation avant l’apparition des paralysies.Anderson et Skaar (Minnesota 1946) : Ces auteurs ont montré qu’il existait une relation entre la vaccination et l’apparition d’une paralysie plus grave que celle des enfants qui n’avaient pas été vaccinés, ou qui avaient été vaccinés 2 à 6 mois, ou plusieurs années avant l’apparition de la poliomyélite.Cela donne l’occasion de relier au moins analogiquement ces résultats avec ceux mis en évidence par l’étude Tardieu sur la SEP chez les enfants dits observants au calendrier vaccinal (1 BCG, 1ROR, 4 DTP avant l’âge de 2 ans) et qui donne un résultat largement significatif (odds ratio 2,77 – probabilité de 0,7% d’obtenir un écart au moins aussi grand).Sorry - for the moment ?- i won't translate

[MinorityView]

I'm guessing this is talking about provocation polio from vaccine injections?

[Fièvre]

Yes it is . ( sorry I have problems with the parameters of my browser . not very readable!!!)

[MinorityView]

I'm glad to see that I can still decipher bits and pieces in French!

[Fièvre]

Bravo !!!!!!!