Momtezuma Tuatara
24-12-08, 07:47 AM
This locked thread is a compilation of stuff which will be added to. Discussion is welcome – start a new thread up in this forum if you wish to discuss something from this thread. I'm sure that many of you will find links I don't know about!
Seraphina (http://forums.beyondvaccination.com/showpost.php?p=1451&postcount=1) put up a very good URL (http://discovermagazine.com/2006/nov/cover/article_view?b_start:int=0&-C=), which details why the key is epigenetics, and how it's a lifelong process. People through the ages have known exactly what epigenetics is. There is a simpler phrase for it - "knowledge gained through observation of cause and effect". Most of us know innately how we live affects the whole of our lives.
Ask any car manufacturer, and they can give you a fundamental definition of epigenetics by describing the car assembly line. This is s a good allegorical comparison to the process of creating a baby.
Right at the start, the manufacturer brings together all the materials to be used at every stage. The car parts brought in to the factory, could be of the best quality, medium quality, or lousy quality, depending on the "intelligence" of the manufacturer. Nevertheless, these parts provided are what the assembly line workers must use.
What you eat, drink, breathe and think, forms the building materials making and growing babies, just like the parts of a car are used to create the car. These materials will affect the way your babies’ genes work.
Back to the assembly line. The car is put together in a set order, following a specific blueprint. Certain things can affect the assembly line. Power cuts, worker strife, and other conditions which might result in workers damaging the car structure as it develops. The provided materials aren't everything. Things which affect where materials are put are also relevant. The car assembly line moves forward, never backwards. Rivets are added in a certain order. Screws, bushes, springs etc build the core foundation. Maybe an assembly worker is lazy, and misses out parts that cushion, or puts on a hose too short. Finally, the "skin" is painted, everything polished and packaged, sent to the car dealer, who shines it up.
And then you walk in. and you look at it, and think, "That's nice".
Just like you look at your baby, count the toes, and fingers, see what looks like a nice face, and think, "That's nice".
What are your concerns about this shiny red car you are thinking of buying? For starters you want the car to do its job, be reliable, and to have the least possible maintenance on it. You also take note WHICH petrol to use, WHICH oil to use, etc... after all, you don't want to invalidate the warranty. Even if the car is made from quality materials, the reality is how well the car works, might be dependant, long term, on providing the right sort of oil and petrol.
Same applies to babies. History proves that babies can grow on formula, appear to be okay and can grow into what appears to be healthy humans on the outside. But are they? You can't compare them to the child they would have been, had the right petrol and oil (breastmilk) been used. Formula fed people say, "Oh but I'm okay." Well, are they? Today's generation of middle aged and elderly are the biggest users of pharmaceutical medicine – most of them were formula fed during the height of formula marketing. "Ah, but that's the process of getting old!" they say. But is it? Do people nowdays, live until the age of 167? (See attached article called Tamysh Kipshidze.) Or is the dependency on prescriptions in middle age a result of constantly breaking the rules which "invalidate the warranty"?
You drive your car on the correct side of the road, and you treat it with care. If you don't, you know what the result will be. The bottom line is, in any car, IF somewhere along the assembly line, substandard goods were used, you are going to find out all about that at some point in that car's life.
So it is with babies. The "start" of the immune system, or a baby's health begins long before birth. Birth is one of the processes on "the assembly line" so to speak, and our immune systems are flexible throughout life.
Back to our cars. Some purchase agreements now have what we call a "Lemon" clause. I bought a computer in 2000 which was a lemon. It cost the company so much money that in the end, they gave me a new one However, unlike cars or computers, we can't send babies back and ask for a new one according to the lemon clause in the "baby" agreement. But there are things we can do to reverse the damage, if we know how.
Just as we drive off with a new car, not realising until maybe a year along the way that the original parts were substandard, we might not know the baby we birthed with five toes, and five fingers, has an internal manufacturing lemon-quotient. Somehow, when something crops up at aged five, we think that the "problem" was never there before. (Obviously with something like a fracture, it wasn't). We don't realise that even something simple, like the way our children's bodies respond to a cold, may be the result of the "petrol" we are running their "car" on.
For so long now, doctors have blamed things on genes, but it's not as simple as that. Just say you have a G6PD deficiency, (a "genetic" disorder). G6PD is a disease where nothing happens unless there is an environmental trigger. Many "diseases" are like that. Take diabetes. In both world wars, when refined flour and sugar were not available, diabetes rates plummeted, because the environmental "trigger" was not there for people to chose to eat, and in turn to provoke disease.
Our health problems can be a result of lifestyle choices. Those choices are "epigenetic" in effect. They alter the "conductor mechanism" of how our genes work. Sometimes, through no choice of our own (dumped chemicals, pollutants in the air ~ fill your own list...) our children can suffer "epigenetic" damage while they grow. We *** can*** pass on our epigenetic damage to our children.
Here is the big thing to take away from this knowledge.
The ultimate test of epigenetics was "Pottinger's Cats: A Study in Nutrition" by Dr. Frances Pottinger. Look at the chart on this page (http://www.healmarketplace.com/herbs/htnp2.html) Pottinger went further, and took the fourth generation cats, put them on their correct diet, and it took four generations again, to take those cats back to where they were before.
Genes are not static or permanent. By going through pregnancy the right way, we can start to reverse damage done in previous generations. We have the potential to create as healthy a baby as possible, if we know how. If we choose to ignore the “natural laws of the manual”, we can invalidate the warranty. When those natural laws are violated, we aren’t the only ones that pay the price. Our children do too, and so do their children after them.
From the day of my conception my genes were malleable by the actions of my mother – what she did, how she raised me, how she fed me etc. And even today, until the day I meet my maker, I can help or hinder that blueprint which is the "ultimate". It is my choice.
This thread will start by bringing together information (note I didn't say knowledge, since the two to me are different), which may help us all understand how and why the assembly line is so important, and why, what we do, eat, think and feel before, during and after pregnancy, can affect the "beginning product".
Seraphina (http://forums.beyondvaccination.com/showpost.php?p=1451&postcount=1) put up a very good URL (http://discovermagazine.com/2006/nov/cover/article_view?b_start:int=0&-C=), which details why the key is epigenetics, and how it's a lifelong process. People through the ages have known exactly what epigenetics is. There is a simpler phrase for it - "knowledge gained through observation of cause and effect". Most of us know innately how we live affects the whole of our lives.
Ask any car manufacturer, and they can give you a fundamental definition of epigenetics by describing the car assembly line. This is s a good allegorical comparison to the process of creating a baby.
Right at the start, the manufacturer brings together all the materials to be used at every stage. The car parts brought in to the factory, could be of the best quality, medium quality, or lousy quality, depending on the "intelligence" of the manufacturer. Nevertheless, these parts provided are what the assembly line workers must use.
What you eat, drink, breathe and think, forms the building materials making and growing babies, just like the parts of a car are used to create the car. These materials will affect the way your babies’ genes work.
Back to the assembly line. The car is put together in a set order, following a specific blueprint. Certain things can affect the assembly line. Power cuts, worker strife, and other conditions which might result in workers damaging the car structure as it develops. The provided materials aren't everything. Things which affect where materials are put are also relevant. The car assembly line moves forward, never backwards. Rivets are added in a certain order. Screws, bushes, springs etc build the core foundation. Maybe an assembly worker is lazy, and misses out parts that cushion, or puts on a hose too short. Finally, the "skin" is painted, everything polished and packaged, sent to the car dealer, who shines it up.
And then you walk in. and you look at it, and think, "That's nice".
Just like you look at your baby, count the toes, and fingers, see what looks like a nice face, and think, "That's nice".
What are your concerns about this shiny red car you are thinking of buying? For starters you want the car to do its job, be reliable, and to have the least possible maintenance on it. You also take note WHICH petrol to use, WHICH oil to use, etc... after all, you don't want to invalidate the warranty. Even if the car is made from quality materials, the reality is how well the car works, might be dependant, long term, on providing the right sort of oil and petrol.
Same applies to babies. History proves that babies can grow on formula, appear to be okay and can grow into what appears to be healthy humans on the outside. But are they? You can't compare them to the child they would have been, had the right petrol and oil (breastmilk) been used. Formula fed people say, "Oh but I'm okay." Well, are they? Today's generation of middle aged and elderly are the biggest users of pharmaceutical medicine – most of them were formula fed during the height of formula marketing. "Ah, but that's the process of getting old!" they say. But is it? Do people nowdays, live until the age of 167? (See attached article called Tamysh Kipshidze.) Or is the dependency on prescriptions in middle age a result of constantly breaking the rules which "invalidate the warranty"?
You drive your car on the correct side of the road, and you treat it with care. If you don't, you know what the result will be. The bottom line is, in any car, IF somewhere along the assembly line, substandard goods were used, you are going to find out all about that at some point in that car's life.
So it is with babies. The "start" of the immune system, or a baby's health begins long before birth. Birth is one of the processes on "the assembly line" so to speak, and our immune systems are flexible throughout life.
Back to our cars. Some purchase agreements now have what we call a "Lemon" clause. I bought a computer in 2000 which was a lemon. It cost the company so much money that in the end, they gave me a new one However, unlike cars or computers, we can't send babies back and ask for a new one according to the lemon clause in the "baby" agreement. But there are things we can do to reverse the damage, if we know how.
Just as we drive off with a new car, not realising until maybe a year along the way that the original parts were substandard, we might not know the baby we birthed with five toes, and five fingers, has an internal manufacturing lemon-quotient. Somehow, when something crops up at aged five, we think that the "problem" was never there before. (Obviously with something like a fracture, it wasn't). We don't realise that even something simple, like the way our children's bodies respond to a cold, may be the result of the "petrol" we are running their "car" on.
For so long now, doctors have blamed things on genes, but it's not as simple as that. Just say you have a G6PD deficiency, (a "genetic" disorder). G6PD is a disease where nothing happens unless there is an environmental trigger. Many "diseases" are like that. Take diabetes. In both world wars, when refined flour and sugar were not available, diabetes rates plummeted, because the environmental "trigger" was not there for people to chose to eat, and in turn to provoke disease.
Our health problems can be a result of lifestyle choices. Those choices are "epigenetic" in effect. They alter the "conductor mechanism" of how our genes work. Sometimes, through no choice of our own (dumped chemicals, pollutants in the air ~ fill your own list...) our children can suffer "epigenetic" damage while they grow. We *** can*** pass on our epigenetic damage to our children.
Here is the big thing to take away from this knowledge.
The ultimate test of epigenetics was "Pottinger's Cats: A Study in Nutrition" by Dr. Frances Pottinger. Look at the chart on this page (http://www.healmarketplace.com/herbs/htnp2.html) Pottinger went further, and took the fourth generation cats, put them on their correct diet, and it took four generations again, to take those cats back to where they were before.
Genes are not static or permanent. By going through pregnancy the right way, we can start to reverse damage done in previous generations. We have the potential to create as healthy a baby as possible, if we know how. If we choose to ignore the “natural laws of the manual”, we can invalidate the warranty. When those natural laws are violated, we aren’t the only ones that pay the price. Our children do too, and so do their children after them.
From the day of my conception my genes were malleable by the actions of my mother – what she did, how she raised me, how she fed me etc. And even today, until the day I meet my maker, I can help or hinder that blueprint which is the "ultimate". It is my choice.
This thread will start by bringing together information (note I didn't say knowledge, since the two to me are different), which may help us all understand how and why the assembly line is so important, and why, what we do, eat, think and feel before, during and after pregnancy, can affect the "beginning product".