Oxygen in wounds

[Organic Fanatic]

I've just been reading through alot of the Tetanus discussions and had a thought that when I had a breast abscess removed surgically I had a rather large deep hole afterwards about the size of the old 50c piece. It had a wick in it to keep it open which was changed daily and the wound was washed out with saline. The wick was to make sure it healed from the bottom up not over the top first. So I guess this same principle could be used in treating wounds at home as it would help to keep it open for oxygen. The wick had some sort of seaweed stuff in it like an agar maybe it helped it to absorb the liquid. It was rather interesting to see how healing happens it was all very new to me.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Yes, and that's how it's best to heal deep boils.

I have a "recipe" for that, but am not sure where to put it...

[gilima]

Please post your recipe! My kids are thankfully so active and outside a lot and I like to be prepared:)

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Okay, this is one we use for both "humans" and animals, for serious wounds. We clean the wounds out first, with warn salt water.

Say the bottle you want to make contains 100 mls total.

You take 25 mls of hydrogen peroxide, and 25 mls of white vinegar, and shake the daylights out of them together.

You add 50 mls of white meths (medical meths) and shake the daylights out of all three.

You must shake the HP and WV together first, before you add the meths.

so it's one part HP, one part WV, and 2 parts MM.

You can use this neat, (we do) or dilute it 50/50 in water.

I've used this with animal abscesses - like cats - when they fight. I lance the abscess and squirt in this mix using a syringe shank without a needle.

Works brilliantly. Wonderful for large horse grazes. You can follow it with medi honey.

for minor stuff though, I'm more likely to just use a spray of Sodium Ascorbate and water.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Okay, you can also use this for large boils. But to extract boils requires a technique which doesn't push the pus inwards.

it's very simple.

You:

Take a bottle with a neck aperture of 4 - 6 cms, but with a large round bulb bottom. Liqueur bottles with largish necks are ideal. You can use a smaller necked bottle, but you require more precision. My bottle has an inside neck aperture of 2.5 cms. i'm happy with that, but other are not.

Put the bottle base in a pan of very hot water.

Wet a flannel in cold water, and put it in the fridge.

clean around the boil.

Put something like coconut oil, or shea butter around the skin outside of the boil. The bottle neck will go here.

Lance the top of the boil so that the pus shows.

Grab the flannel from the fridge, and put it on a board on the floor or wherever, next to the person... Remove the bottle from the pan of water and dry it. Gently put the neck of the bottle around the boil, then drape the flannel loosely over the outside of the base of the bottle, which will start the cooling. After a few seconds, get someone to hold the flannel against the glass.

The quick cooling of the air in the bottle creates a suction which "sucks" the pus out of the boil.

if air leaks in around the neck and you fail the first time, repeat the process.

might take a while to perfect the technique.

Hospitals do NOT do this technique, because they don't know how. how do I know that? because our son's girlfriend, fully qualified nurse, was freaking out about a boil in his inner thigh, and wanted to have him in hospital on IVs. Son doesn't like hospitals, so they came to me (she looked really unhappy) and she watched as I did the whole thing, and within two days, he was fine. It healed really well.

It wasn't deep enough to need an agar wick, and I used a diluted mix of the above, as well as a sodium ascorbate wash.

Hospital toss in a full body IV hand grenade called antibiotics, and absolutely trash all gut flora and make it harder for the person to properly get rid of the boil.

sigh.

[Wonder-Full]

Wow! Great to know.

Silly question, but what is involved in "lancing"? Is it just puncturing the surface with a sterile needle?

When you clean around the boil before starting, do you just mean soap and water or do you use something antibac?

Once all the pus is out (I'm thinking you do it until you see only blood instead of a mix of blood/pus?) do you apply anything onto the wound (ie honey)?

Thanks.

[Wonder-Full]

Oops, disregard that bit about what to clean with, have just spotted the post above.

[gilima]

sorry for this...but what is medical meths???

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

I clean around the boil with soal and water, washing it off well, and drying it well., and yes, I use the hydrogen peroxid formula after that...

Medical meths is not the blue ghastly stuff which they colour and stink so that people won't drink it. Here we buy medical meths at the chemist. Some men use it on their faces after shaving....

[Merry]

Heya,

What percantage strength hydrogen peroxide for that wonderful wound concoction? 3%, 6%, 35%? Or does it not matter?

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

6%.. ............... no higher