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Spy
12-01-09, 09:49 AM
Since I get more and more demented and tend to lose my links and records, this is probably safer here than on my hard disk. :o

Epidemiology. Our favourite. :D AND, as a separate bonus, mathematical projections, our champion. :LMAO:Still, the underlying idea I found interesting.

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/120/1/39

THE FUTURE OF MEASLES IN HIGHLY IMMUNIZED POPULATIONS A MODELING APPROACH1

DAVID L. LEVY Reprint requests to Dr. David L. Levy, Department of Social Medicine, Montefiore Medical Center, 111 E. 210th Street, The Bronx, NY 10467


Little is known about how an intensive measles elimination program changes the overall immune status of the population. A computer model was created to study the effect of the measles elimination program in the United States on the number of susceptibles in the population. The simulation reveals that in the prevaccine era, approximately 10.6% of the population was susceptible to measles, most of whom were children less than 10 years of age. With the institution of the measles immunlzation program, the proportion of susceptibles in the population fell to 3.1% from 1978 through 1981, but then began to rise by approximately 0.1% per year to reach about 10.9% in the year 2050. The susceptibies at this time were distributed evenly throughout all age groups. The model did not consider the potential effect of waning immunity. The results of this study suggest that measles elimination in the United States has been achieved by an effective immunization program aimed at young susceptibles combined with a highly, naturally immunized adult population. However, despite short-term success in eliminating the disease, long-range projections demonstrate that the proportion of susceptibies in the year 2050 may be greater than in the prevaccine era. Present vaccine technology and public health policy must be altered to deal with this eventuallty.

Momtezuma Tuatara
12-01-09, 10:19 AM
And always a simulation by a computer is accurate, and much more "thought-worthy" than actual human experience.

and the computer simulation dictates that the policy must be altered, so that everyone, everywhere, has life-long boosters of the vaccine so that MSD's till-bells break from the constant kaching.

:chair:

Spy
12-01-09, 10:25 AM
Actually, this thing is over 20 years old and very possibly was [part of] the thinking behind the second dose, timing is right isn't it?

However, this did not consider waning of immunity. So nothing (including life long boosters) is going to change the fact that in highly immunized populations susceptibility to measles does not fall indefinitely with the use of vaccine and does get redistributed in a lot less favourable way than it was without vaccination. :cool:

In a more plain language, measles vaccine can neither eliminate measles nor replace the real thing.

Momtezuma Tuatara
12-01-09, 10:30 AM
Yes, but you and I both know that that is not their "aim" :p

Spy
12-01-09, 10:40 AM
Nor do we care about their 'aim' as long as they actually let some of the truth out. :giggle:

MinorityView
12-01-09, 11:12 AM
A leak! Hurrah for leaks form the good ship Pharma/gov!