Aluminum in vaccines vs aluminum in breastmilk

[cartersmom]

I hear this from MD's all the time...there is more aluminum in breastmilk than there is in vaccines. I know the difference is that it is injected rather than ingested, but there has to be more to it than that. Can somebody break it down for me more specifically so when I hear this arguement I can talk about it intelligently and sound like I know what Im talking about!

[Lexie]

Well, I don't know the exact figures--as far as breastmilk, we'd be talking about averages anyway. I don't use deodorant, use cast iron to cook in, don't take antacids. Apart from past vaccines, I have avoided aluminum. I'm also allergic to it--go figure. So if a doctor thinks my milk has more aluminum than a vaccine--which has at least 6 times the amount considered toxic to an infant--he doesn't know what he's talking about. I also like to detox every few years though I haven't specifically chelated yet, but I plan to in the next year or two.

[Nirvana]

I am sure someone else will be of more help here but this is what I know.

When adjuvants such as aluminium are used in vaccines, they not only stimulate the immune system of the body but also the brain's immune system. These cells are called microglia are normally sleeping immune cells but they become highly active after vaccination. The scary part is these cells are generally immobile but after a vax is given they start roaming around the brain and secreting some toxic chemicals and excitotoxins. If I recall correctly, in Neil Miller's Vaccine Safety manual, Dr Blaylock says that the activation of the body's immune system by vaxes leads to the overactivation of the brain's microglia which in turn causes continuous release of the excitotoxin which is linked to seizures.

I would highly recommend you read some of Dr. Russell Blaylock's papers. He has done some really good work and written a great book or two.

When you ingest aluminium which is supposed to be the third most abundant element on earth, it doesn't enter the blood stream directly! Like you said the gut takes care of it.

HTH

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

There is a chapter on it in JALP, and some also in FOPTA, and I know you have that... so I'm taking it that what I've said is too technical?

This won't explain much, but it's a start.

http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/Aluminum_in_Vaccines.pdf (http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/Aluminum_in_Vaccines.pdf)

[cartersmom]

There is a chapter on it in JALP, and some also in FOPTA, and I know you have that... so I'm taking it that what I've said is too technical?

This won't explain much, but it's a start.

http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/Aluminum_in_Vaccines.pdf (http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/Aluminum_in_Vaccines.pdf)

nono. I don't find you too techinical at all! I read both some time ago, along with dozens of other books. I guess I don't absorb alot of stuff long term as it is soooo much info and is so overwhelming sometimes. I'm looking at JALP right now in the contents section...can you point me to the right section??
Sorry if Im totally blind!

[MinorityView]

I'm not volunteering--wanted to get that out of the way--but it would be great to start creating an index for JALP and maybe even one for FOPTA. They could be stored online somewhere. Maybe in a database or a spreadsheet or even just in a blog. It could be the first wiki built index!

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

I'm not volunteering either. Try Chapter 74 in JALP, and FOPTA has an index :D I would rather provide those who have either, with a pdf, providing that was only used for search functions, and not to provide liberally around the world, leaving us with a pile of books to shift.

Eventually, I will put the pdfs on internet.

[Lexie]

Just as a side note, though I dislike Dr. Sears, I do still have his book. According to him, you can't avoid aluminum entirely in vaccines. Sometimes there are no aluminum-free alternatives.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

The problem is that without aluminium, or some sort of adjuvant, the immune system just sits there and goes :nana: :pfft: :shrug: The reason for that is when you by-pass the normal "chains of command" in the immune system, and come in the back door, instead of the front, the body doesn't recognise the antigens.

But when you add and adjuvant, the body goes :duel: :duel: :duel: :duel: :duel: at everything in the vaccine. Not just the antigen, but the adjuvant, and any other "adventitious" compound that there.

and the reason for that is that there are certain things that should never get in the back door, rather than the front, and that's a crude way of describing why the body reacts to aluminium when it's injected.

I know an immunologist wouldn't approve of such a verbal mind picture, but then, the immunologists still don't know precisely HOW aluminium switches on the immune system either.

But they "know" its safe :nana:

right. cough.

[MinorityView]

There aren't very many substances that we are better off injecting.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

There aren't very many substances that we are better off injecting.

...that what? :scratch: I have cognitive dissonance today MV :p

[MinorityView]

Injecting stuff into the human body should be strictly emergency medicine. It ain't normal. It can be life-saving, but it isn't an easy, safe, sensible way of getting needed stuff into the human body.