Cancer and alternative healing methods -

[Gitti]

Here an article by Dr. Krebs - Cancer is merely a Vitamin B 17 deficiency (http://web.archive.org/web/19960101000000-20080721232346/http://www.geocities.com/vialls/laetrile1.html)

(Irony - the German word for cancer is Krebs.)

[Trogdor]

Subbing to come back and read later....

One of my most used / looked into books is Options :The Alternative Cancer Therapy Book by Richard Walters.

[MinorityView]

One of my grandmothers was treated by Dr. Gerson.

[deesalie]

We get a lot of cancer patients in the shop looking for apricot kernels because of the B17 in them...

Unfortunately they're not for "commercial" sale because of the arsenic content (like apple seeds) but they are advertised by growers in alternative magazines etc

[Gitti]

One of my grandmothers was treated by Dr. Gerson.

Would you mind telling us what type of cancer she had and what the outcome was?

[MinorityView]

I don't know the whole story, but I'll pass on what I remember of what I was told. She had cancer on her tongue and the regular doctors suggested/recommended amputation. She went to Dr. Gerson, the treatment worked, the cancer shrank. I'm not sure if it disappeared, but it didn't grow again.

After the time at the clinic, she continued with the treatment to some extent, under the care of my aunt and my step-grandfather. She died three years later, apparently of old age, heart failure, general body wearing out stuff. She was in her 80s.

I had another grandmother with cancer, who did the surgery thing (hers was ovarian?) but the cancer was already somewhat advanced. She did the Gerson treatment, but I don't think she got as good management from amateurs, plus she didn't want to drink the juices and stuff. My mother was taking care of her and she felt great as she got all the unused juices for her own use. So the cancer spread to her liver and she died. I think she had a second round of surgery to speed the process.

[Gitti]

So the cancer spread to her liver and she died. I think she had a second round of surgery to speed the process.

Poor lady. But it was too funny how you put that. :LMAO:

That's how I see it, too.

[MinorityView]

Surgery can be a lifesaver. In that particular case it was useless and destructive.

Sometimes my sense of humor gets mean.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

There are plenty of medical and other articles which show that surgery when in "remission" can result in another bout of cancer. Especially in women, if surgery is scheduled at the wrong time of the month, which male surgeons often seem to have a knack of doing.

[MinorityView]

Didn't know that, but it makes sense. In her case the cancer wasn't in remission. But I'm sure the surgery took a huge toll on an already weakened and elderly system.

[Nirvana]

A little boy I know has just finished five rounds of chemo for ALL. I had passed his mom the link about Klenner's IV vitamin C therapy for cancer. I also passed her links for Vit D deficiency and cancer. I want to arm her with some more useful knowledge to help her child get through without further invasive treatments. I have told her time and again to discuss with the pediatric oncologist about vitamin C but I have a feeling he's not ready for this discussion yet. But I could be wrong. So what else can I tell this mom to help her deal with her child's health and future?

[Wonder-Full]

nirvana, I think you can only do what you have done. She needs to want to take some ownership before she will do anything with your information. I think all you can do now is let her know if she wants to investigate into alternatives with nutrition, supplements etc that your doors are open when she is ready and you will help source info for her then (and at the end of the day, it is only through her desire for the knowledge that will help her make decisions and believe in what she is doing, it's no good you saying this is good and this could work because she needs to truly believe in wanting to take a different path).

[Nirvana]

I understand what you are saying Wonderfull and I do think this mom is ready to try something radical or different. She's the mom afterall and wants nothing but the best for her little one. I guess the medical system does it's job establishing a little paranoia in parents when it comes to fatal illnesses and treatments. In her heart perhaps she wants to do all that she can but still she cannot proceed further without the onco's help. I want to do all I can in my power to furnish her with details about care and treatment. How she uses it is finally upto her but I want to make sure that she gets to read about all there is so perhaps something somewhere that she reads, makes her sit up and analyze and implement.

Thanks for your wise words. :)

[magical1]

I'm into everything alternative but my passions are vaccinations and cancer...

My reasons for being so into alternative cancer treatments come from experience. No I haven't had cancer but I have had Cin 3 changes on my cervix twice.

The first time I took the treatment as you do in stirups arse up without a question in my head.:confused:

The second time I was full of fear and was more open to... well I was more open to opening my eyes not my nether regions as you may understand.:mad:

It just took one person to tell me that I could turn around the cell changes with changes to my diet. I did everything I was told.

I ate an all vege diet, only organic, stopped all synthetic perfumes cosmetics cleaning products, I took B17 that I got from Mexico, douched with ACV and distilled water and took a mushroom extract.

Three months after all the hard work my smear came back clear.

Now I didn't have cancer and don't profess to have had the disease but my experience has given me my great interest in cancer.

I would dearly love to cure the incurable because I believe it can be done.

Gearson is certainly a good start. Juicing, Organic veg diet, B17, Vitamin C, vitamin D, exercise!

Now you have to watch the following vids... google these "Dying to have known" and "food matters" If you want to see how cancer is not a terrible life sentence.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

This is interesting:

http://germannewmedicine.ca/documents/qanda.html

http://germannewmedicine.ca/documents/hamerbio.html

[Nirvana]

Thank you Magical and MT. Looks very interesting, promising and DIFFERENT than the normal course!