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jules
22-02-09, 02:20 AM
Olmsted on Autism: Autism Explosion Followed Big Change in MMR Shot


In 1990, Merck & Co., manufacturer of the mumps-measles-rubella vaccine known as the MMR, made a significant but little-noticed change: It quadrupled the amount of mumps virus in the combination shot, from 5,000 to 20,000 units. Then in 2007 it reversed course, reducing the amount to 12,500 units. Neither the measles nor the rubella (German measles) component of the MMR was changed at all -- each remained at 1,000 units throughout.

Merck also makes the single-component mumps shot, and in 1990 it also increased the potency of that shot by the same amount, from 5,000 to 20,000 units. But unlike the MMR shot, the standalone mumps shot’s potency was not scaled back in 2007. It remains at 20,000 units.

These changes were mentioned in passing recently during an informal conversation with a Merck scientist. I started looking for an explanation for the sequence of events, but Merck did not respond to a detailed written request for comment....



Merck’s decision to cut back on the increase in the mumps vaccine also is surrounded by interesting timing. The cutback, in 2007, came at the same time Merck announced it was suspending its recently introduced, much-hyped four-in-one shot, ProQuad -- the MMR with the chickenpox vaccine added to it...



In looking at whether the increase in mumps potency in 1990 could buttress this theory of the autism epidemic, two questions arise: Is there evidence that increasing the mumps portion of the MMR could have any impact on measles infectivity or create symptoms consistent with those described by Wakefield and parents? And, could ProQuad's higher rate of measles rash and fever-induced seizures be a warning sign that something is amiss with the MMR itself, especially beginning in 1990 when Merck tinkered with the proportions of the components?



...Then, for whatever reason, sometime between February and December of last year Merck reduced the mumps component of the MMR from 20,000 units to 12,500 while leaving the standalone mumps shot as it was. During that same period, it decided to suspend production of ProQuad. In April 2007, it announced the suspension, and said no more would be available after July. Then in early 2008, Merck’s study showing the doubled risk of seizures in ProQuad was unveiled and the CDC withdrew its recommendation.

And just last month, Merck said it would stop making the individual MMR component shots including, of course, the mumps shot...


Yet based on Merck's own 2005 study cited above, ProQuad triggers an increase in mumps virus replication, too. Live viruses in ProQuad seem to be behaving in ways "as yet unknown" that cause immune suppression, co-infection, interaction and increased replication. Even without ProQuad on the market, interaction between the MMR components and the chickenpox virus remains a possibility. The CDC started recommending the chickenpox shot in the mid-1990s at the same 12-month well-baby visit as the MMR...

Two additional points worth noting: After the increase in 1990 and decrease in 2007, there is still more than twice as much mumps virus in the MMR as there was in 1990...

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I have to wonder if the package inserts indicated the change made to the Mumps portion? If it wasn't, how is that legal? Even if it was, where was informed consent to test it on the public for a product that had essentially 'changed'?

I had 3 children born in 1990 and I never knew about the change. So yes, this bugs me:mad:

Momtezuma Tuatara
22-02-09, 02:05 PM
I guess vaccine manufacturers just do whatever they feel is the right thing to do...

cartersmom
23-02-09, 09:02 AM
I guess vaccine manufacturers just do whatever they feel is the right thing to do...


They are so concerned with the "right" thing too :eyeroll:

ema-adama
02-06-09, 11:02 PM
Does anyone have any product inserts going back to pre 1990 and pre 2007? I would love to see for myself the change in writing by Merck themselves. I am also wondering what the tissue culture infectious doses (TCID) are in other strains of vaccine..... off to find out just what a TCID is...

Dozytoes
02-06-09, 11:37 PM
Does anyone have any product inserts going back to pre 1990 and pre 2007? I would love to see for myself the change in writing by Merck themselves. I am also wondering what the tissue culture infectious doses (TCID) are in other strains of vaccine..... off to find out just what a TCID is...

I'm going to try uploading a PDF file with links to the package inserts - hopefully it will work, but I'm not the world's greatest technohero so it may disappear into cyberspace. :eek:

Hope it is of help. These are the US package inserts, but still useful.

ema-adama
03-06-09, 12:31 AM
Hi,

Thanks for that. It seems to have the most current package inserts, not the earlier ones. If anyone happened to be into keeping package inserts from pre 1990 for Mumps that would be such an awesome find for me.

Still trying to figure out just what TCID are... :confused:

Momtezuma Tuatara
03-06-09, 10:13 AM
tissue culture infectious dose (http://www.bio.net/bionet/mm/virology/1999-September/007271.html)

The "parent" explanation of that is in an english MMR vaccine information pdf (http://www.mmrthefacts.nhs.uk/resources/pdf/MMRII_PILs.pdf)

Momtezuma Tuatara
03-06-09, 10:25 AM
In that MMR leaflet (http://www.mmrthefacts.nhs.uk/resources/pdf/MMRII_PILs.pdf)I love this bit...




The inactive ingredients are human albumin solution (including sodium caprylate, sodium Nacetyltryptophanate, glacial acetic acid, sodium hydrogen carbonate and sodium hyroxide), potassium phosphate, dibasic, sodium phosphate, dibasic, hydrolysed gelatin, medium 199 (a mixture of aminoacids , mineral salts, vitamins and other components including glucose), minimum essential medium, eagle (a mixture of aminoacids, mineral salts, vitamins and other components), monosodium L-glutamate, phenol red, potassium phosphate, monobasic, sodium hydrogen carbonate, sodium phosphate, monobasic, sorbitol and sucrose. [I]A full list of excipients is available from the Marketing Authorisation Holder.





Inactive???? since when are any of those things "inactive" in the body???!!!!!!!!!

anyone game to ask for the full list?

Momtezuma Tuatara
03-06-09, 12:23 PM
Okay, here are some from my files. I had to scan them, so they are large.

the first is the vaccine we used before september 1991, which was called Pluserix. This one has 20,000 mumps.

Momtezuma Tuatara
03-06-09, 12:37 PM
This next one, is filed directly after the pluserix one, but has no date. I'm presuming it replaced Pluserix.

Okay, 1991 5 mb pdf won't load. You'll have to email me if you want it. That had 20,000

Now, I'll try the 1994 one (4 mb) which has 5,000 units. That has failed to upload as well.

Momtezuma Tuatara
03-06-09, 12:46 PM
I have the 2007 sheet, but it's copyright 2004 ... it has the Mumps reduced to 12,500, but that doesn't say if the reduction was in 2007 or not.

the best way to track this would be to go to printed medical journals like PID or JAMA, and go through the MMR advertisements issue by issue (with a magnifying glass) and track the month where the amount for mumps changes.

Nirvana
03-06-09, 01:09 PM
I am confused. I thought they did the big jump in 1991 to 20,000 units. But you say that you have package inserts from 1990 which state that it had 20,000 units. So did they always contain 20,000 units and reduced it for sometime only to increase it later?

I hope I sound coherent....haven't slept at all last night. :o

Momtezuma Tuatara
03-06-09, 02:53 PM
No, I have the 1991 Pluserix which has 20,000... and the MMR one which came out straight after which has 20,000, and the 1994 one which has 5,000.

So somewhere between 1991 and 1994 they dropped the dosage. I have a pdf labelled 2007 with 12,500 but it's copyrighted to 2004, so I don't know when they dropped the 20,000 to 12,500.

ema-adama
03-06-09, 03:24 PM
HIllary thanks - going to email you to get those files...

From what was written on AOA, in 1990 merck jumped from 5000 to 20,000 and then in 2007 dropped back down to 12,500. I am wondering if all the manufactorers followed this trend, and if so why? I am not finding any studies talking about failings in the 5000 units with the result that 20,000 would be a good idea.

I think this could be very very important

Momtezuma Tuatara
03-06-09, 07:18 PM
we didn't use MMR here before 1991, so I've nothing on the MMR here before that. I only have 1991 onward, so know roughly when it

But like I say, if that's what they are saying, then it didn't apply to NZ.

1991 = 20,000 Mumps TCID for Pluserix
replacement USA MMR = 20,000 TCID MUMPS

From this point we used USA vaccines, so I don't understand why AoA says that, since our inserts are from USA...

1994 = 5,000 CCID Mumps
1997 5,000 CCID Mumps
2007 raised to 12,500 ....

Momtezuma Tuatara
03-06-09, 07:41 PM
I've put a post up at Aof A Let's see if they post it. I've converted a screen shot to a jpg.... will put that up later...

Momtezuma Tuatara
04-06-09, 11:01 AM
they did post it http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/02/olmsted-on-autism-autism-explosion-followed-big-change-in-mmr-shot.html

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f71/Angladrion/posttoAoAreMMR.jpg

ema-adama
04-06-09, 05:24 PM
I saw that the single mumps vax was 20,000 units in 2007... I'll see if i can find the insert - it was for mumpvax manufactured by Merck

I tried JAMA online, and either I don't know how it works - or they don't have advertisments online....

MinorityView
04-06-09, 10:13 PM
Yes, usually the ads are not included in the online editions of publications, or not in the usual format. You'd have to go to a medical library and sit down with a stack of back issues.