What about animals and vaccines??

[magical1]

OK...something I have been doing lots of research on lately... As most of us here are either caring parents or grandparents of children how about our "fur-kids" and our stand on THEIR vaccines??

Do you vaccinate your dogs and cats? What does the vet do as far as pressure goes to vaccinate? What is it with the yearly "booster" shots? Is microchipping safe?

It took me many years to get my kids well so I have only just decided I now have time to focus on my animals. They are all on raw diets and don't have anymore vaccines... They are treated "from the pantry" My vet puts terrible pressure on me.

I would love to have some feedback from the community as to what your choices are with your next most precious "kids".:)

[Seaweed]

I don't vax mine. The cats are all on raw diets & the ponies are on the natural horsey hay 24/7 diet. It makes perfect logical sense to me that if human vaxes are suspect, animal ones will be worse. They are not notorious for working either.

[magical1]

Good I just need to cement it in my head thanks for the comment seaweed.

Is there more assumption that vax goes on for animals because if you get a dog or cat from a breeder, spca or petshop they are already "pre vaxed"? Taking away that "choice"

[Seaweed]

I don't know about dogs but I know with cats, the NZCF rules say you have to vax them. I think the SPCA & pet shops just do it. I think their first lot is 9 weeks & their second lot is 12 weeks. I guess if you can get your hands on them pre then, you have a choice. There is a thread on raw cat food in the living for a better world forum with some links in.

[Seaweed]

There are some interesting vax links on this page
http://www.eden-lea.com/Vaccination.htm

[Sakura]

I don't know about dogs but I know with cats, the NZCF rules say you have to vax them. I think the SPCA & pet shops just do it. I think their first lot is 9 weeks & their second lot is 12 weeks. I guess if you can get your hands on them pre then, you have a choice. There is a thread on raw cat food in the living for a better world forum with some links in.

Still, that's later than human babies.
:(

We adopted our dog at a year and a half, so we didn't have the choice, but he will never be vaxed again.

[Serephina]

We don't vax ours anymore (they did get them up until 2 years old before I knew any better) and they are fed a raw diet. The vet gave us homeopathic nosodes to give them but the only reason I do that is so the boarding kennels will accept them if we have to go away.

[Epona]

No vaccines here for pets either.

[Seaweed]

I forge the signatures on the vaccination cards when my animals need to board or if my horses travel or are in show I probably should familiarise myself with what these things are supposed to look like in case I ever have to go there.

re: cat vaxes. As I am selling some kittens at the mo which are unvaxed, I decided to check out when & also what they vax them for. Interestingly FHV is feline herpes virus which is one on the list.

[magical1]

I guess there aren't any laws surrounding animal vaccines... or are there?

In NZ now we "have" to get all new dogs microchipped which I have read can have side effects like cancer at the site. Mine have both avoided this procedure more from luck than good management.:D

When we go away luckily my dogs go to stay with my parents. They are very "doggie" and are happy to have five dogs running around. Mine and theirs. If I was to book them into a boarding kennel would I have to have proof of vacination or be turned away??

[Seaweed]

I dunno. They probably aren't laws as such but more discretionary things to do with the people who run the business. I know all the catterys I have come across want you to have them vaxed & want to see proof. I have a tom cat too so they are problematic to get boarded at the best of times.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/scienceVaccineDamage.html (http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/scienceVaccineDamage.html)

[Dozytoes]

We brought two dsh cats and a long-haired, white German Shepherd to Australia from England. The cats were adopted from the RSPCA in 1994 as kittens, and initially we had them vaccinated because we didn't know any better. After a couple of years of doing it, we stopped - they were indoor cats and we really couldn't see any point in continuing. Then we "wised up" and vowed they would never have any more.

Our pup came to us at just shy of six weeks of age in 2004, and came to us unvaccinated from the breeder. Our choice, but she didn't argue. In England he saw a homeopathic vet and was "vaccinated" prophylactically with nosodes.

When my husband lost his job in the UK and was offered another in Australia, we had to make the decision whether to bring our furkids or rehome them. After a lot of agonising, we decided to come as a complete family. Which meant, of course, that they had to be vaxed to be allowed in. We did it reluctantly, but couldn't have stood to leave them behind - it would have been like leaving a child!

They were fine initially, then we discovered a large tumour at the vaccination site on our pup, Mishka. It grew very quickly and when we took him to the vet he thought it was probably a type of sarcoma induced by the vaccines. He removed it and thankfully it was benign, although we'd got him to save a sample of the tumour for potentisation if necessary. That was a couple of years ago and he's been fine since.

We had to have one of our pusscats euthanased last January when she developed a very aggressive cancer in her thorax. She was literally suffocating from the lungs upwards. It broke our hearts to have her put to sleep but the vet said she would have had a dreadful death. He felt the vaccinations might well have been implicated.

Our other puss, now nearly 15, and our pup are doing well and will never see another vaccination. I don't believe they suffer any less from vaccine reactions than we do. We don't use the flea preparations either, and we don't do heartworm treatments. Mishka is raw fed, although Smudge's dental state probably wouldn't support raw feeding at her age.

Sue

[dreamboat]

My cat was given to me before recieving his first vax so i was able to avoid them all together. He is fed raw food also and is a huge healthy boy who was only inside for the first 3 years of his life.I let him out now but he isnt really interested he just hangs inside most days and is always in before the sun goes down.

I copped an earfull from the vet when he found out once but i do not really care what he thinks. I just wave dhim off much to his disgust:rolleyes: