Momtezuma Tuatara
17-12-08, 10:00 AM
To be added to, as and when.
The first thing I'd like to talk about here, is the medical professions understanding of the nuts and bolts of the immune system. (they rarely discuss the epigenetics, or the screwdrivers and wrenches which tweak the nuts and bolts, but we will later, since they are really the key.)
We can't really discuss the impact of lifestyle and nutrition on the immune system, until we have a rough idea of what the nuts and bolts of the immune system are.
I was shocked recently, to discover that some people have no idea, and even worse, that some people think that the immune system is created by vaccines! :alien: so much for schooling.
I like this textbook here. (http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/book/immunol-sta.htm)
So for instance scroll down, and you will find the inate immune system, which you can download as a powerpoint (http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/2008-immppt/Innate%20Immunity08.ppt) or a PDF (portable data file). (http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/2008-immpdf/Innate%20Immunity%2008.pdf)
All chapters are accompanied by a Windows media lecture.
There are nineteen chapters, all accessible to you. If you have another on-line immunology text you like, please add it in a post.
What must be borne in mind when reading a text is what they DON'T yet know, which might make a monkey out of what they do know.
But there are some fundamentals which will stand the test of time.
We can make a book list sometime, if you want, as well. I'm one of those people who reacts better to books. :D
For those interested in animals, animals studies (http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/209/2/284) show that the immune system doesn't follow a general broad pattern, but depends on individual modifiers such as parasites etc.
It's obvious that the same applies to humans, particularly in view of the fact that nutrition plays such a big part in how effectively the immune system works in the first place.
Definition of epigenetics. (http://www.dukemednews.org/news/article.php?id=9322)
If you want, we could do this thread as a book review, where everyone reads a chapter then comes here to crash their brains against a wall because of all the big words. :mallet:
There is a powerpoint on the innate immune system here (http://www.depts.ttu.edu/porkindustryinstitute/Advanced%20Physiology/Immunology%20Innate.ppt), and this is a neat page called "immunolobiology interactive" (http://www.blink.biz/immunoanimations/index1.html) where you click on open, and say, take the first one, Innate imune system, move to the right, and go through each drop down segment. it's a bit technical, and I doubt they have all of it right, because they are always finding new stuff which contradicts the old, but at least you keep up to date with current thinking, and knowing this, you wil know far more than most people.
The first thing I'd like to talk about here, is the medical professions understanding of the nuts and bolts of the immune system. (they rarely discuss the epigenetics, or the screwdrivers and wrenches which tweak the nuts and bolts, but we will later, since they are really the key.)
We can't really discuss the impact of lifestyle and nutrition on the immune system, until we have a rough idea of what the nuts and bolts of the immune system are.
I was shocked recently, to discover that some people have no idea, and even worse, that some people think that the immune system is created by vaccines! :alien: so much for schooling.
I like this textbook here. (http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/book/immunol-sta.htm)
So for instance scroll down, and you will find the inate immune system, which you can download as a powerpoint (http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/2008-immppt/Innate%20Immunity08.ppt) or a PDF (portable data file). (http://pathmicro.med.sc.edu/2008-immpdf/Innate%20Immunity%2008.pdf)
All chapters are accompanied by a Windows media lecture.
There are nineteen chapters, all accessible to you. If you have another on-line immunology text you like, please add it in a post.
What must be borne in mind when reading a text is what they DON'T yet know, which might make a monkey out of what they do know.
But there are some fundamentals which will stand the test of time.
We can make a book list sometime, if you want, as well. I'm one of those people who reacts better to books. :D
For those interested in animals, animals studies (http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/209/2/284) show that the immune system doesn't follow a general broad pattern, but depends on individual modifiers such as parasites etc.
It's obvious that the same applies to humans, particularly in view of the fact that nutrition plays such a big part in how effectively the immune system works in the first place.
Definition of epigenetics. (http://www.dukemednews.org/news/article.php?id=9322)
If you want, we could do this thread as a book review, where everyone reads a chapter then comes here to crash their brains against a wall because of all the big words. :mallet:
There is a powerpoint on the innate immune system here (http://www.depts.ttu.edu/porkindustryinstitute/Advanced%20Physiology/Immunology%20Innate.ppt), and this is a neat page called "immunolobiology interactive" (http://www.blink.biz/immunoanimations/index1.html) where you click on open, and say, take the first one, Innate imune system, move to the right, and go through each drop down segment. it's a bit technical, and I doubt they have all of it right, because they are always finding new stuff which contradicts the old, but at least you keep up to date with current thinking, and knowing this, you wil know far more than most people.