Momtezuma Tuatara
25-03-09, 01:49 PM
You know me. I'm a cynic, bred from years of being thumped by the medical system in general. Fortunately, there are a few people in it, who do have redeeming feature.
Having spent years dealing with people who have vaccine damaged children, this article (http://www.compassioninhealthcare.org/downloads/files/Power_of_apology.pdf) sort of misses the boat, in that an apology of any meaningful sort can never be given when the mantra is that vaccine reactions are always coincidental and related to something else.
When I had anaphylactic shock after an antibiotic, huge fuss was made, every effort was made to educate me to never have that antibiotic again, or it could kill me. A medic alert was organised for me, and alerts updated over time as antibiotic after antibiotic made my face and neck swell up or cause bronchospasm. I was taken seriously :cool:. I was plainly sane, and lucid. Even perhaps, intelligent and capable of accurate thought? :eek:
Contrast that to two reactions after vaccines, at which point I became an :alien: as do most people, when that happens. Perhaps the hives were due to the feijoa you just ate? Why not ask me if I imagined bronchospasm after co-trimoxazole? "Perhaps you were imagining it, since your antibiotic reactions have "scared" you?" :giggle:
( :LMAO:funny how I could eat feijoas after the vaccines, and still can. Perhaps the arthritis after the rubella vaccine was caused by all the years of gymnastics?) My husband can also tell you the pseudo-excuses he had after his vaccine reactions.
Having been in situations where gross medical mismanagement within hospitals has impacted me, and our first son twice, this article also misses the boat on that score too. The first time was mismanagement by intent, proved by affadivit's from several staff members, but denied to kingdom come. Okay, strike that out as Old School Cavalry Paternalism.
Start again. How about in 1989? This time, one week's mismanagement by fixation to normal protocol of diagnosis of near catastrophic internal haemorrhaging (resulting from a haemoglobin drop of 155 down to 64), and totally ignoring of the facts at hand. Fortunately, the ignoring of the facts at hand when considering diagnosis, worked in our favour, since had any proposed treatment of an actual diagnosis been as incompetent as the diagnosis, our son could well have died.
Many will say that the article is a good start. Perhaps it is, but the issues are a lot deeper than are attempted here.
As I see it, while the author may have good intentions, the primary purpose of an apology even in a situation of no-fault compensation, is protection of the system, the staff in it, and keeping an aura of accountability in action.
There is a problem though, which this author doesn't address, and that is that many times, while justice is seen to be done by the system, it's not felt to be done by the victim.
Until apologies really become meaningful instead of non-apologies, or pseudo-apologies, or words said solely , "to keep communication pathways open" until a suitable explanation can be proferred, then ultimately the system will continue to shoot itself in the foot, particularly in a country like New Zealand, where people think a lot, and say little.
Many people are 'lost' from the system, because they know something went wrong, saw it go wrong, but won't ever bail the system up about it, because they've seen from what happens when other people call the system to account, just how futile that is. Particularly when doing so, leads to you being penalized in the future. So they say nothing, walk away, and permanently fester about it .
One of the reasons why alternative medicine has a lot of business in this country is because many people no longer trust the medical system at any level where they have voluntary control over whether or not they are "treated" by the system.
And if you land up in a car crash, you hope that you are not conscious to be around and see what's being done to you at that point. Hopefully you wake up and find that everything that should have been done, was done.
And even then, :rolleyes: it probably pays, for your sanity, not to ask too many questions. :eyeroll:
Sometimes what you don't know, will hurt you less, if you don't know it. :chair:
:ride:
Having spent years dealing with people who have vaccine damaged children, this article (http://www.compassioninhealthcare.org/downloads/files/Power_of_apology.pdf) sort of misses the boat, in that an apology of any meaningful sort can never be given when the mantra is that vaccine reactions are always coincidental and related to something else.
When I had anaphylactic shock after an antibiotic, huge fuss was made, every effort was made to educate me to never have that antibiotic again, or it could kill me. A medic alert was organised for me, and alerts updated over time as antibiotic after antibiotic made my face and neck swell up or cause bronchospasm. I was taken seriously :cool:. I was plainly sane, and lucid. Even perhaps, intelligent and capable of accurate thought? :eek:
Contrast that to two reactions after vaccines, at which point I became an :alien: as do most people, when that happens. Perhaps the hives were due to the feijoa you just ate? Why not ask me if I imagined bronchospasm after co-trimoxazole? "Perhaps you were imagining it, since your antibiotic reactions have "scared" you?" :giggle:
( :LMAO:funny how I could eat feijoas after the vaccines, and still can. Perhaps the arthritis after the rubella vaccine was caused by all the years of gymnastics?) My husband can also tell you the pseudo-excuses he had after his vaccine reactions.
Having been in situations where gross medical mismanagement within hospitals has impacted me, and our first son twice, this article also misses the boat on that score too. The first time was mismanagement by intent, proved by affadivit's from several staff members, but denied to kingdom come. Okay, strike that out as Old School Cavalry Paternalism.
Start again. How about in 1989? This time, one week's mismanagement by fixation to normal protocol of diagnosis of near catastrophic internal haemorrhaging (resulting from a haemoglobin drop of 155 down to 64), and totally ignoring of the facts at hand. Fortunately, the ignoring of the facts at hand when considering diagnosis, worked in our favour, since had any proposed treatment of an actual diagnosis been as incompetent as the diagnosis, our son could well have died.
Many will say that the article is a good start. Perhaps it is, but the issues are a lot deeper than are attempted here.
As I see it, while the author may have good intentions, the primary purpose of an apology even in a situation of no-fault compensation, is protection of the system, the staff in it, and keeping an aura of accountability in action.
There is a problem though, which this author doesn't address, and that is that many times, while justice is seen to be done by the system, it's not felt to be done by the victim.
Until apologies really become meaningful instead of non-apologies, or pseudo-apologies, or words said solely , "to keep communication pathways open" until a suitable explanation can be proferred, then ultimately the system will continue to shoot itself in the foot, particularly in a country like New Zealand, where people think a lot, and say little.
Many people are 'lost' from the system, because they know something went wrong, saw it go wrong, but won't ever bail the system up about it, because they've seen from what happens when other people call the system to account, just how futile that is. Particularly when doing so, leads to you being penalized in the future. So they say nothing, walk away, and permanently fester about it .
One of the reasons why alternative medicine has a lot of business in this country is because many people no longer trust the medical system at any level where they have voluntary control over whether or not they are "treated" by the system.
And if you land up in a car crash, you hope that you are not conscious to be around and see what's being done to you at that point. Hopefully you wake up and find that everything that should have been done, was done.
And even then, :rolleyes: it probably pays, for your sanity, not to ask too many questions. :eyeroll:
Sometimes what you don't know, will hurt you less, if you don't know it. :chair:
:ride: