HiB infection vs. HiB carrier

[passionatewriter]

can someone please help me wrap my mind around this one.

the distinction being made that antibiotics should be given when there is an HiB infection, as opposed to one simply being a carrier.

how can one tell the difference?

(see other thread for my son's current situation...basically no ear infections, no bronchitis, lungs are good, no sinus infection) but culture came back from 8 DAYS AGO indicating HiB.

i am beyond confused by this distinction and excuse me if im just being dense and need to do much more research on this issue...which may be the case. I'll admit my research in not vaxing all occured approximately 3 years ago and i havent made it a daily habit of reading up on everything since.

tia

[Spy]

The difference is simple - carrier is not sick. :D

People who believe that bacteria is the root of all evil and should be killed whenever found or even assumed/suspected to be present, will probably advise antibiotics to the carriers as well - at least, I have seen it happen. Next step is to assume that people only 'need' antibiotics when they get sick - any symptoms, really. Just because antibiotics kill bacteria and we 'know' that the disease is bacterial and there is something on the market 'for it'. Yet the next step is to remember that humanity as species made it right to the point when they discovered antibiotics without becoming extinct - that is, getting through diseases, including bacterial, WITHOUT antibiotics, mostly successfully. In which case antibiotics make sense only when we know that a person wouldn't cope without them. Meningitis is a good example - if it gets to this point, it is obvious that something is wrong enough with the system to let it get to the brain.

JUST BECAUSE Hib bacteria was found in the sick child's swab, I certainly would not use antibiotics. I still insist that it does NOT even necessarily mean it was the cause of the sickness - it could well be a different bacteria that they didn't test for! Regardless, the child copes well with whatever it was.

[passionatewriter]

thanks Spy. I completely agree with you...just trying to wrap my mind around the suggestion that I should do antbx for a kid who has no symptoms of anything at this point....and in trying to figure out whether he is simply a carrier.

i am thinking the only way to really know if he is a carrier is to wait 3 months or so and have him tested, when he is not sick, hasnt been sick, and is not about to get sick (hahahaha). if he tests positive at that point, then i would think that means he is simply a carrier???

[Spy]

That would definitely mean he is simply a carrier. However, this bacteria may already be gone as we speak. And be back at the time of testing. Or not. Or there may be five others. Also sitting there doing nothing. See how we can have the labs busy if we REALLY get curious? :LMAO:

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

We cannot develop immunity to any bacteria, without becoming regularl carriers in the first place. The majority of us do not get sick.

In 1989, a child in Auckland became the centre of IMAC and media tyranny about "deadly diphtheria". The irony was, that his throat swab which showed positive to S. Pyogenes, (a common cause of tonsillitis) as well a C. diphtheria, went missing for a week. Once it surfaced, he was asked to return to the hospital, where the hospital notes state that the child was NOT treated, because there was no sign of any illness in the child whatsoever, and in the opinion of the two specialists involved, the illness had probably been caused by S. Pyogenes with C. diptheriae being an adventitiously carried.

The day after this hospital file entry, one of the treating specialists, and Nikki Turner of IMAC started a public "extermination of truth" programme in the radio and on TV, in which all the adults/staff and children in the playcentre where the child went, were revaccinated (against international protocols), and treated prophylactically with heavy duty antibiotics, some of which caused serious side effects :LMAO:The child got off scott free, while all others around him were antibiotic/vaccine napalmed.

do these inconsistencies :rolleyes: make sense to you?

No?

Well, me neither.

But since WHEN does an issue like this make sense, when the REAL issue was to take the case of an unvaccinated child who is NOT sick, whose parents are essentially gagged from speaking, and turn it into a public whipping issue, resulting in unnecessary disruption, angst side effects etc, SOLELY with the aim of making the provaccine public rise up and treat non-vaxxers as paraiahs of society.

And that's the bottom line.

So the question for you is, are you going to buy into medical bs or not?

[passionatewriter]

See how we can have the labs busy if we REALLY get curious? :LMAO:

yes, i do see that..and what a waste of resources, huh? my obsessive need to have all the answers..i just need to accept that sometimes there are no definitive answers.


W

So the question for you is, are you going to buy into medical bs or not?


yeh, well, i determined a long time ago that i was not buying into the medical bs.

but i get the same question..its an ACTIVE bacterial infection. what the frak is that, if there are no symptoms?

i guess, as i said above, you cant answer all the questions.