Minerals for kickstarting Vit c

[dreamboat]

Okay i have read in your other threads on pertussis about how to take a mineral to kickstart the vit c.
I am taking those pregnancy and breastfeeding tablets and an immune booster tablet is that enough in the way of minerals or is there a specificaly strong mineral vitamin you can suggest that is ideal for this type of situation?
I have Magnesium here in powder form is that a good mineral or do i need a tablet that includes many types of minerals in one?
I believe my 8 month old may have the pertusis virus but i could be wrong but i want to treat it like he does anyway.
I have been giving the vit c about a teaspoon a day to him and my daughter who is 3 next month i have been giving about 2 teaspoons and i have been taking about 2 teaspoons myself. Also echinacia and the tissue salts,phos ferr of a day and the silica leading up to bedtime.

Its hard to really say if anything is working as my daughter just keeps going from a wet crackly sounding cough to a dry one every couple of days and now the baby had began coughing a crackly wet cough last night only a few times but enough to sound like the whoop when he breaths in during the cough.

IS this all enough? do i just keep up what i am doing? You start to get nervous when it is a baby that may have it.:(

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

vitamin C doesn't need a mineral to kick start it. It's the other way around. A lot of other vitamins and minerals need vitamin C to kickstart them.

Pertussis is a bacteria, and the disease is a toxin mediated disease, and it's the toxin that the vitamin C disrupts, not the bacteria.

Starting at the beginning:

during pregnancy the real key is diet, rather than minerals. High protein, lots of veges and fruit and reduced carbs and no sugar.

Adding vitamins and minerals should only be done if you feel and know you have a problem. So for me because I have difficulty relaxing; a tendency to constipation and live in a selenium deficient country, selenium and magnesium are the first two minerals I add in. But in adding them in I check out what they work with using Paul Bergner's book called "The Power of Minerals" but there are others that give you the "web" of what interacts with what.

If you don't know what you are doing with supplements, then make sure that you know what you are doing with your diet. Eat as widely as you can, and make sure that you cover all bases, and don't short on protein.

Vitamin C is the one vitamin you can be confident has mimimal impact on anything else. But minerals can all influence one another. Vitamin B only works with certain things.

I started this thread before I got banned from Mothering, so you could start here:

http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=406983

In terms of pertussis, you have to know what your child has, before you can really work out what to do. In general it's rare for whooping cough "cough" to be wet. it's normally a submachine-gun barking cough. It has a wet aspect in that mucus comes up, but because mucus thickens with whooping cough as a reaction to the toxin, it's not "wet" in the sense of a cold cough.

So this is roughly what you need to have seen to be sure that it is whooping cough.

http://forums.beyondvaccination.com/showpost.php?p=3096&postcount=2

It's important, because adenoviruses and a couple of other bacteria cause symptoms very similar to, but not the same as whooping cough, so in the early days, there can be confusion about it.

In 2006, when I had whooping cough as an adult, I didn't know it was whooping cough until the fourth week.

In terms of this thread, when it comes to things pertussis, it's better to keep them together on the pertussis thread, so I will combine this thread with the pertussis treatment one at some point.

[dreamboat]

Now worries sorry about that i did consider putting it in there.
Thanks for your help i had them both swabbed 2weeks ago (nasal) and it came back negative yet on the same day my sister had her kids done and they came back positive. At this time only my daughter had a cough which when i think about it she has had re- occuring since jan and back then we thought it sounded like croop.
My mum thinks it still sounds like it did back then,so anyway they tested negative however she has got worst and the cough is lengthening.
Last night my son coughed 3 times then a big loud weezing whooping sound as he took a huge breath in.
I immediately thought yes they have it.
Since i first thought this 2weeks ago and reading all your info on the vit c i have been administering it to all three of us.

In the begining my daughters cough sounded crackly and phlemy then turned dry and very loud then back to crackly then dry and so on. This has gone on for ages now and it is worst right now keeping her up a fair bit at night. My sons cough does sound crackly so i guess it prob is not pertussis then but it is running rampant around here atm so i think everyone is on tender hooks when anyone coughs.

So are you saying that if it isnt whooping cough then everything i am doing with the vit c and tissue salts is useless or just keep at it anyway regardless?

Sorry for all the drawn out questions but if i am going to do this naturally without doc intervening then i want to do it properly and be sure i am fully aware of what i am doing and why.
I also had pertussis as an infant and nearly died,do you know if my baby would have any type of immunity to it due to my breastfeeding him or that is all just a load of crap.

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

No, I'm not saying that. :D If they have not got diarrhoea, then their body is using it, and vitamin C isn't going to do any harm. If you are right, then vitamin C is the way to go. I queried it, just to make you go back and think about how it started, to make sure, you were sure, that it was whooping cough.

However, if it's whooping cough, then the reason it's not tapered down, is that your vitamin c doses are too low. go through the posts about dosage, and working out what is the best dose for each child, and after that, you find out by error and trial.