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Dozytoes
12-04-09, 11:15 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1169330/New-vaccination-fears-plan-hepatitis-jabs-weeks-old.html

New vaccination fears over plan to give hepatitis jabs at eight weeks old

By Beezy Marsh (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=y&authornamef=Beezy+Marsh) and Jo Macfarlane (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=y&authornamef=Jo+Macfarlane)

Last updated at 10:18 PM on 11th April 2009

Babies could be routinely vaccinated against hepatitis B under controversial plans being discussed by Government experts.

Cases of the disease, a blood infection which is often transmitted sexually, are said to be spiralling in Britain.

An influential committee on vaccination is considering adding it to a combination jab given to babies at eight weeks.

This would create a six-in-one vaccine which would also immunise against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, polio and Hib disease – a form of pneumonia.

But campaigners are concerned about the ‘over-vaccination’ of children and fear any complications caused by adding hepatitis B to the jab would be difficult to spot.

By the age of four, a child will have received 32 vaccines, some in multishot jabs including the MMR against measles, mumps and rubella.

The driving force behind the change is concern that infected immigrants are contributing to a rising tide of hepatitis B.
The virus is commonly spread by unprotected sex and needle sharing among drug addicts, and is 100 times more infectious than HIV. The disease can lead to liver cirrhosis and liver cancer.

Because it can be spread by only a tiny amount of blood through cuts and grazes, it is thought children in playgroups could be particularly vulnerable to catching it.

But GP Dr Richard Halvorsen, director of the Babyjabs single vaccines clinic, said he was opposed to the vaccination move.
He said: ‘The children at most risk are born to mothers carrying the virus and they are already given immunisation at birth.’

He said a 2004 study found adults immunised against hepatitis B were three times more likely to develop multiple sclerosis in the three years after vaccination.

The campaign group JABS, said the hepatitis B vaccine had also been linked to chronic fatigue syndrome.

The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, which from this month has greater powers to decide UK vaccine policy, is due to discuss the plans at its next meeting in June.
According to one member of the committee, there is ‘huge pressure’ to introduce a universal vaccination against the infection.

The British Medical Association and the charity Hepatitis Foundation UK have previously called for all babies to be immunised against hepatitis B.

The move would also bring the UK in line with World Health Organisation policy.

Stella Pendleton, from Hepatitis Foundation UK, said: ‘The trouble is hepatitis B is known as a silent killer because there are often no symptoms until real damage has been done. I understand parents’ concerns, but a child vaccinated at a young age will always be protected.’

Andrew Thomson, of the BMA’s Board of Science, said infection rates were spiralling and that treating the infection was costing the NHS millions.

High risk areas for the disease include South Asia, Africa and parts of Eastern Europe. Many migrants from these areas settle in Britain.

The condition can kill five per cent of those who contract it.

The Hepatitis Foundation UK puts the numbers carrying the virus in the UK at 326,000 – double the official estimated figure seven years ago. Data from the Health Protection Agency show there are 700 cases diagnosed each year, 30 of them in children.

A Health Department spokesman said last night: ‘The safety of children is always paramount whenever decisions are taken regarding what vaccines are included as part of the child vaccination programme.’

MinorityView
12-04-09, 11:25 PM
‘The safety of children is always paramount whenever decisions are taken regarding what vaccines are included as part of the child vaccination programme.’

Anyone want to buy a nice bridge in Brooklyn? What is the equivalent saying for Australia and New Zealand? When someone is selling an impossible bit of nonsense at a high price?

Momtezuma Tuatara
13-04-09, 04:51 PM
If the safety of children is paramount, then I guess they consider all children of non carrier mothers are about to shoot drugs, have sex and live on the street. What a stupid comment when it comes to Hep B.

Nirvana
13-04-09, 06:41 PM
High risk areas for the disease include South Asia, Africa and parts of Eastern Europe. Many migrants from these areas settle in Britain.



I find that to be an extremely racist remark. Just yesterday someone I know was commenting how the BCG vax is pushed for Asians in UK but not for the whites. How does a disease know which skin color you have!

It's rather unfortunate that UK is now considering this vax for newborns. The least they can do is screen mothers before implementing this in their schedule.

cartersmom
14-04-09, 03:00 AM
Why not just give it at birth like they do here in the good ole USA??? That way the parents won't have 8 weeks to think about it and realize how ridiculous it is :eyeroll:

MinorityView
14-04-09, 09:45 AM
The UK strategy is to hide it in a hexavalent vaccine, so parents don't know their kids are receiving hep b. I mean, come on, how many parents are going to read all the info before their kids are jabbed? How many medical practices will give them the opportunity? When their babies get sick or die, then parents notice that something isn't quite right...

3monkeys
15-04-09, 06:00 AM
oh yay a 6 in 1...........

this sort of thing just makes me shake my head and be so grateful I dont vaccinate.

Momtezuma Tuatara
15-04-09, 07:05 AM
I find that to be an extremely racist remark. Just yesterday someone I know was commenting how the BCG vax is pushed for Asians in UK but not for the whites. How does a disease know which skin color you have!the problem is that a huge number of African/Indian/Asian immigrants into UK do have Hepatitis B. I don't think it's anything to do with colour of the skin, as living conditions where they came from.


On a slightly unrelated note, I read an interesting article years ago, about African immigrants, whose TB sort of did little for a few years, and then 7 years after their arrival, there was a spurt where it temporarily got worse, then dramatically got better.


The researchers, who had been looking at their immune systems, and comparing it with the stress of socially adjusting to a new country, now body flora and becoming at ease with their new life, said that the immune system, once a person really adjusts, suddenly apprears to come alive, and kick in. Temporarily, that made the cases look worse, when what was actually happening was that the immune system was finally dealing with the infection, having come out of stress-induced hibernation.

I wonder if that happens with Hep B too? Pregnant women often test positive to hep B in pregnancy, but revert to normal after 6 weeks. I've often wondered why.


so i don't see it as racist, so much as being a realist.


It's rather unfortunate that UK is now considering this vax for newborns. The least they can do is screen mothers before implementing this in their schedule.


That's a double edged sword. From my point of view, I'd rather they didn't screen mothers. Here, they "aggressively" treat Hepatitis B carriers with Interferon and other stuff which is pretty awful on the body.
So I'd not want that.. given that 1% of hepatitis carriers seroconvert to normal every year, it's better to leave well alone.