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Sakura
18-04-09, 02:15 PM
It is, apparently, a very aggressive form of cancer that is affecting his bladder. His left kidney is also completely shut down, although the doctor thinks that this is an unrelated issue that may have been long-standing.

The surgeon wants to remove that non-functioning kidney, and since the cancer has infiltrated the bladder wall, will also be removing the bladder as well. It is unknown at this time whether they will fashion a "neobladder", or if he will have a cystostomy bag.

The surgeon is a tool, and berated my parents for using alternative techniques. They have been using some specific homeopathic remedies prescribed by a trained homeopath/naturopath, while also pursuing all of the allopathic diagnostic testing over the course of the past few weeks.

We will most likely be looking for another doctor to take my father's case, as we do not want someone who is being so passive-aggressive and emotionally manipulative (and outright lying) to be in charge of his care.

My mother is making fresh juices for him, as well as pursuing natural ways of supporting his body. If anyone knows of anything that might help, please let me know.

Thank you so very much.

Dozytoes
18-04-09, 02:39 PM
Nothing more productive to suggest, I am afraid. It sounds as though you are already covering all the bases I would think of.

I just wanted to send best wishes to you and your family, and offer some positive healing vibrations for your father. If you would care to send me your father's first name, I would be happy to forward it to my friend's healing circle back in England. Her circle has had much success and she herself is the president of the World Healing Federation. I know she would be pleased to try and help.

Sue

Miriam
18-04-09, 02:40 PM
I highly recommend the book - "Cancer: why we're still dying to know the truth" by Philip Day. It goes into great detail about metabolic therapy and is a fascinating read. I purchased it through his website credence publications.

All the best :hug:

Momtezuma Tuatara
18-04-09, 03:19 PM
Apart from praying, I'd be looking at this guy first:

Learn how sodium bi-carbonate (baking soda) which costs very little gets rid of cancer this is a must see for all.?
(click on the link below to watch video)
Fungus Causing Cancer -- A Novel Approach to the Most Common Form of Death (http://articles.mercola.com/redirect/view.aspx?Email=rozday@paradise.net.nz&ReturnURL=http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-cancer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx)???
Video interview with a prominent Italian oncologist expanding on his alternative views.

www.health-science-spirit.com/maple.html (http://www.health-science-spirit.com/maple.html)

I'm not into essential "bit" removal.

justine
18-04-09, 07:07 PM
Firstly I wanted to say that I am thinking about you and how much worry you all may be going through. Hang in there. :(

Secondly, I had lots of fungal infections about a year ago. I had ring worm on my shins and used a ton of antifungal cream. I then started to use Sodium ascorbate and it has now cleared compleatly. I would reccomend it to all.

Get some from Healthpost.co.nz.

Love
Justine

magical1
18-04-09, 07:45 PM
How old is your dad and what have been his other health issues?

3monkeys
19-04-09, 04:45 AM
no advice, but plenty of hugs. I am wishing you and your family strength and sending love as you go down this road.

MinorityView
19-04-09, 05:28 AM
I'll be thinking and supporting all of you. One of my grandmothers had very good results from the Gerson treatment.

Getting away from a nasty doctor sounds like a good move.

You might want to look into Iscador or one of the other mistletoe treatments.

Sakura
19-04-09, 07:59 AM
Thank you all for your healing thoughts and information. My father's name is James and he lives in New York City. My mother is very much into Seimei, which is an energy healing technique, so healing energy from others is greatly appreciated.

As for other health issues, he has been legally blind since the age of 7 due to meningitis. He has gotten on very well in life despite his severe visual deficits. He had been quite sedentary and had a pretty bad diet (lots of processed carbs etc.) up until about 12 years ago, when he embarked on a journey towards health. He started race-walking about 10 years ago and has completed a marathon, several half marathons as well as many shorter races every year.

One of the things that came back on his recent labs is a VERY elevated homocysteine level.

I will look into the Bicarbonate, SA, and mistletoe. Also just found some information about frankincense oil being effective against bladder cancer, which is very interesting.

We will definitely be looking for a new doctor. My sister and I will probably make the push for that with my father, since he is not so keen on listening to my mother when it comes to stuff like this.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

magical1
19-04-09, 09:49 AM
Hey hope some of the info in the attached links help you.

Sakura
19-04-09, 12:48 PM
Thank you for the mentions about the Gerson Institute.

I was just looking through their website, and I happen to live 15 minutes away from their facility.

They do have a program to train caregivers, I will talk to my mother about either having me take it and giver her the info, or have her come out to take the course.

Momtezuma Tuatara
19-04-09, 02:43 PM
magical that second pdf looks good, and i'd go along with most of the first one, except the bit about no peels.

If produce is organic, and everything is scrubbed, to peel everything deprives people of a large amount of minerals as well as quercetins and a whole range of anti-inflammatories. I know someone who is still alive after being diagnosed with prostate cancer, and a huge part of his diet is organic raw apples and he always eats all the peels....

magical1
19-04-09, 03:42 PM
That is an American Protocol so yes you are right MT... here is different I agree we don't wax our fruit sealing in the pesticides.

However if you are in America or Canada PEEL!

MinorityView
19-04-09, 09:42 PM
If you can get organically grown, peels should be okay. Summer is coming up, perhaps you can get donations out of local gardens of people who don't use poison?

Sakura
24-04-09, 06:36 AM
The doctor called my father this afternoon with the results of the cystoscopy last week. The determination is:

Removal of left kidney
Total removal of bladder with reconstruction of neobladder
Total removal of prostate

The surgeon said not to wait on these as the cancer is very aggressive.

Meanwhile, my father just started sodium DCA last night, he got it from a good friend of the family who is a naturopath. My mother is continuing to make him organic fruit and vegetable smoothies, and he has cut almost all refined carbs/sugars out of his diet. They are not happy with the surgical "treatment" and are trying other things as much as they can.

I've passed on all of the protocols and information that you have posted, thank you so very much. My mother (who is caring for him, he is blind so he is unable to do much of this stuff himself) is so very appreciative. THANK YOU!

magical1
24-04-09, 02:56 PM
Cancer need not be the big killer that you think it is. Is it any wonder that when we hear that word we think someone has just been passed a death sentence? Doctors, entertainment have insured that it sends the fear of God into us.

I am happy in the knowledge that if given a diagnosis I would only treat myself and seek alternative treatments. There would be no question in my mind. Every single member of my family would go for full allopathic treatment. But for you it is a bit more blurry? He is pressured to go with what the Drs say and he is trying some alternatives as well.

It must be hard for you to know what is best for him. I personally don't think that cutting out bits of his body that are cancer ridden will prolong his life. Or add to his quality of life. This is my opinion only.

Download the movie "dying to have known" about the Gerson Treatment and if you have a Gerson centre near you then take him there. This would be my first port of call.

I have close contact at the moment with a breast cancer patient who is treating herself naturally with great results. She has a strong faith which has become stronger since her healing quest begun. Personally I don't have the faith that she has in God but I wonder if that would change faced with a life change like cancer.

If you want to PM me I can give you some contacts that may help him.

Momtezuma Tuatara
26-04-09, 01:53 PM
The biggest killer in the world is fear, worry and the massive output of steroids and other chemicals that puts out into the body.

That is where faith comes into it, because to trust God, who made you, knows what he's doing, takes the worry off your own shoulders and puts them on His.

The questions your father needs to ask these people is, what guarantee can these doctors give your mother and father, that the treatments they prescribe will improve your father's quality of life, and his ability to live? What are the likely complications? What does surgery do to the immune system, and how will that "enhance" the ability of the body to heal, or even, exist normally?

If your mother wants an inspiring book to read to her husband, she might like Sir Willam Key's book, called "Flowers in Winter", which was his story of his trip to China to use chinese herbal medicine to fight "fatal cancer".

most telling is the totally dismissive comments the doctors made, after the chinese did what they could not.

Quickening
26-04-09, 02:36 PM
My mother is continuing to make him organic fruit and vegetable smoothies, and he has cut almost all refined carbs/sugars out of his diet

Keep in mind that fresh fruit juice contains sugars which may feed cancer. It hits the body harder than taking the time to eat an apple for example. Maybe just stick to juicing vegetables? Bone broths are also a good way to get extra vegies and minerals into you. Bone broth recipes are here - http://westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/broth.html

magical1
26-04-09, 06:17 PM
My children and I drink lots of carrot juices, mixed with other veg juice... they are always sweet. I have always wondered if this is too much sugar? What does anyone else think?

Momtezuma Tuatara
26-04-09, 06:27 PM
I would think with cancer you'd want to limit them. Particularly if there is any truth to the belief of that oncologist, that underpinning cancer is candida.

Sakura
27-04-09, 02:47 AM
Thank you all so very much!!

I have continued to give my parents all of this incredible information, my mom will now be careful by limiting the fruit, carrots, and beets that she puts in their smoothies (she is drinking them, too.)

I also gave them info about the book by Sir Keyes, it is hard to get here in the US but it looks like there might be a few used copies over on Amazon.com.

My father is feeling well, he racewalked 4 miles yesterday, so is keeping up with his exercise routine. MT, you touched upon many of the question that we have yet unanswered from the surgeon, regarding quality of life and his ability to maintain his level of activity after the surgery. My parents still work (they own a small coffee shop in a municipal courthouse), and their job is quite physical, with lots of standing and lifting throughout the day. My father also enjoys training for racewalking competitions and does several marathons, 1/2 marathons and 10K races every year.

It is so discouraging with how mainstream medicine work, with little to no regard for the body as a whole, and how to work with the immune system and continue to maximize it through treatment. The surgeon's mantra, obviously, is "cut, cut, cut", with little else besides that. We are all on board that there is a better way.

Momtezuma Tuatara
27-04-09, 07:03 AM
My husband and I talked about this the other day, and his response was, that for him, it wouldn't matter what the answers from the surgeon were: that for him, he was not prepared to let anyone cut, nuke or poison his body; and that regardless of the consequences of that choice for him, that natural treatments and God's intervention, were the only options he would consider.

His logic was the same as Eshak Meshack and Abednego, when they said to King Nebukadnezzar, "We will not bow down to you, and you can throw us in that furnace. We believe that God will deliver us, but even if He didn't, be it known that under no circumstances would we bow down to you." He tossed them into the fire; the guards that tossed them in were killed, and the king was amazed to see four people walking around in the fire, not three... and Eshak Meschack and Abednego were called out of the fire, they walked out without so much as a chain smoker's pong.

His logic was that if the body 'got' that way, it could also reverse. And if it didn't he'd take it on the chin.

That would not be everyone's approach, but it was his. That's also part of his faith as well. And the more I think on these things, the more I think that approach is right.

MinorityView
27-04-09, 09:39 AM
Part of the philosophy of cut, burn and poison is life at all costs. We are all going to die. It is inevitable. Once that reality is accepted, then choices can be made on the basis of quality of life, rather than prolonging life, no matter how minimal the extended life experience might be.

It isn't always a bad thing to prolong life--a few extra months may give someone a chance to sort out things that need sorting out, say good-bye and so forth--but this is the sort stuff that really needs to be approached consciously and thoughtfully.

I'm impressed by the way your parents are approaching this. They sound like remarkable people.

Dozytoes
28-04-09, 10:37 PM
Thank you all for your healing thoughts and information. My father's name is James and he lives in New York City. My mother is very much into Seimei, which is an energy healing technique, so healing energy from others is greatly appreciated.

As for other health issues, he has been legally blind since the age of 7 due to meningitis. He has gotten on very well in life despite his severe visual deficits. He had been quite sedentary and had a pretty bad diet (lots of processed carbs etc.) up until about 12 years ago, when he embarked on a journey towards health. He started race-walking about 10 years ago and has completed a marathon, several half marathons as well as many shorter races every year.

One of the things that came back on his recent labs is a VERY elevated homocysteine level.

I will look into the Bicarbonate, SA, and mistletoe. Also just found some information about frankincense oil being effective against bladder cancer, which is very interesting.

We will definitely be looking for a new doctor. My sister and I will probably make the push for that with my father, since he is not so keen on listening to my mother when it comes to stuff like this.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

Hi Sakura,

I sent your Dad's name and a request for healing to my friend in the UK and she has added him to her circle, and will circulate his name around the World Federation so everyone else can place him in their circles.

Her partner is an excellent osteopath of many years' experience, and he also has a keen interest in nutritional issues. She passed on the information about the elevated homocysteine levels and he had this to say:

"Homocysteine responds to B12 & Folic acid, and the correct amount of methyl donors to be present with the enzymes to facilitate the reaction. Any deficiency in the supplies or the catalyst will stall the system.

To explain:

Methyl donors provide required chemistry to allow for the breakdown of Honocysteine to occur, to transfer from the carrier to the required molecule a transfer enzyme is required [in this case Methyltransferase] folic acid must be in the correct form so an oxidation/ reduction enzyme is needed to allow this to occur with its own co factors zinc and magnesium.

Methyl donors are Choline, Betaine and DiMethyl Glycine. Choline is manufactured by correct gut flora – so clean up the gut and get the acidophilus in there. Successive loss of methyl groups converts between the 3 chemicals I state and the carrier is a regular amino acid and therefore a food for protein repair.

Methyl transferase is provided by eating peas, kiwi fruit and green pepper, raw of course and every day.

Folic acid and B12 are closely linked and have many sources but mainly from meat and dairy and yeast.

The enzyme oxidoreductase is from Brassica veg – and especially Broccoli and from gooseberries.

Add raw carrot to this and you cover all bases.

Zinc is always good and the food source is Pumpkin seeds, Magnesium from Brazil nuts."


I hope this is of help in some way - maybe just another piece of a jigsaw that will mean something.

Good luck.

Sue x

Nirvana
29-04-09, 04:11 PM
Hi Sakura, I am so sorry to hear about your father's illness. But I see that he has great support in the form of you and your family. Nothing counts more than support in tough times.

He will be in my prayers and thoughts. Everyone here has given some fab advice. Great to read he's able to racewalk inspite of health issues. Take care and do the best you can.

Healing thoughts send your father's way.

Sakura
03-05-09, 12:09 PM
Thank you again, for the information and positive thoughts. My parents also thank you.

My parents are seriously exploring the candida connection.

Question: Does anyone know of a doctor/clinic that does the baking soda injections? They are willing to travel internationally.

Thanks so much!!

Momtezuma Tuatara
03-05-09, 02:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=JP&hl=ja&v=HQuODiMlUsc

magical1
03-05-09, 02:57 PM
I'm so pleased that this thread is still going...

I truly believe in everyones ability to heal. I don't believe in God (as such) but I do believe in Prayer... sound odd?

Let me ask you this? Is there any emotional thing that he should be addressing?

Sakura
01-06-09, 01:52 PM
Sorry to have been absent for a while.

The cancer has spread. :(

It is now taking up the entire volume of my father's bladder, and he now has a catheter. They have also found metastases to prostate, several lymph nodes in his abdomen, and one of his vertebrae. Besides the catheter, he is feeling ok.

My mother is continuing to make him fresh juices, he is eating only fresh, non-processed foods and has cut out sugars, starches and dairy. He is also on many different nutritional supplements.

Magical, to answer your very intuitive question, he does have some major emotional issues, much of it stemming from anger as well as secrets. My mother, sister and I all feel that this is absolutely the root cause and an aggravating factor to his condition. He is, quite literally, "pissed off".

My daughter and I will be traveling there next week to help out my mother in any way we can. DD is a little ray of sunshine, so I'm sure her sweet presence will be a comfort and joy to my parents during this challenging time. I am planning to cook up a storm with lots of nutritious meals and to help them clean up around the house.

I hope to have a happier update next week.