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Dozytoes
27-06-09, 11:48 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/national/cancer-vaccine-a-success-story-20090627-d0gp.html (http://www.smh.com.au/national/cancer-vaccine-a-success-story-20090627-d0gp.html)

Cancer vaccine a success story Leesha McKenny

June 28, 2009
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/06/27/607192/200ianfrazer-200x0.jpg Hailed . . . Professor Ian Frazer. Photo: Glen McCurtayne

IT MIGHT be another two decades before Australian women can farewell the Pap smear, but the Federal Government's free cervical cancer vaccine program has been hailed a success by one of the drug's creators.

About 4.7 million doses of Gardasil have been distributed nationally before the Government's free vaccination deadline on June 30. Women aged 18 to 26 still have an opportunity to be vaccinated against cervical cancer at no cost provided they take their first dose by Tuesday.

The unsubsidised cost of the three doses of Gardasil is about $460. The school immunisation course for 12-year-olds will continue indefinitely.

Government figures show more than 700 new cases of cervical cancer are reported each year in Australia, 70 per cent of which are believed to be caused by two strains of the human papillomavirus, which is targeted by Gardasil.

Professor Ian Frazer, who spent more than 10 years developing the vaccine, said Pap smears would remain essential for all women until vaccines were developed that are 100 per cent effective against cervical cancer.

"We still only get two-thirds of women in this country taking part in the Pap smear program, and the cervical cancers occur in the women who do not regularly get Pap smears," he said. "It's really important people carry on getting the Pap smears because there will be some cases of pre-cancer found on those Pap smears due to the virus types not covered by the vaccine."

Dr Richard Hillman from the University of Sydney's Sexually Transmitted Infection Research Centre said a trial of the drug on men would finish next month. The results were expected to show the vaccine could reduce susceptibility to some cancers among sub-groups, such as gay men.

Momtezuma Tuatara
28-06-09, 12:03 PM
Well, he has to, doesn't he. He invented it, and received royalties for it. I'm sure it will be pushed at some point, even on the elderly.

cartersmom
29-06-09, 09:57 PM
an impartial party......:eyeroll:

Momtezuma Tuatara
30-06-09, 01:26 PM
ah, but every vaccine is a success story don't you know. I've even read articles from long ago, defending and exalting the scarlet fever vaccine, in spite of the fact that it trashed far more children and adults than scarlet fever ever did... which is why it silently disappeared into the medical profession's skeleton pond.. you know, the one with the sign called "NO FISHING" placed above it.

cartersmom
30-06-09, 10:42 PM
ah, but every vaccine is a success story don't you know. I've even read articles from long ago, defending and exalting the scarlet fever vaccine, in spite of the fact that it trashed far more children and adults than scarlet fever ever did... which is why it silently disappeared into the medical profession's skeleton pond.. you know, the one with the sign called "NO FISHING" placed above it.


I wonder if ANY vaccine has saved more lives than it has ruined or taken as compared to the disease it is meant to prevent?

Momtezuma Tuatara
01-07-09, 07:32 AM
I wonder that too. But how would we know? The only reason we know that the smallpox vaccine was a total trasher of young babies are the court records from the UK (which aren't easy to see) and the huge antivaccine movement, whereby parents, who had lost children after the smallpox vaccine at birth, were willing to go to jail, rather than risk losing their next child to the smallpox vaccine.

But where do you see that in the medical literature?

Yes ago, I took a copy of a UK dispatches documentary on the polio vaccine, to TVNZ, and waited with reporters while they dubbed a copy. I casually flipped onto the table, government parliament records, which said that there had never been any serious reactions to the OPV. The older guys around the table flipped out laughing. Right there, at that table, two reporters had had serious reactions, and all of them knew people who had also had serious reactions. they could see the lies.

BUT... will future generations, who don't know where to look, and have no personal experience of the period from 1956 - 1970 KNOW what they knew?

Of course not, and that's what the medical profession relies on.

It's all there in Sir Graham Wilson's book, "The Hazards of Immunization." which was written yonks ago. he talked about the mantra of silence; the unspoken law that one must NOT talk about vaccine reactions, ever.... and he admitted that he would never have been able to write that book, had someone from a vaccine company not had such a guilty conscience, that he made available to him, records which these days would be burned immediately.